POYET: "Brighton are ready for the Premier League, and I’d love my old team to get there."

[StonehamPark]

Anyone think that Gus's conciliatory tone has something to do with his ongoing job search.

No chairman wants a manager who is perceived to be difficult.

Was going to post exactly this.

 

[Gwylan]

Anyone think that Gus's conciliatory tone has something to do with his ongoing job search.

No chairman wants a manager who is perceived to be difficult.

Steve Evans has just walked into a job - he must be the walking embodiment of a difficult manager

 

[beorhthelm]

"Everyone thought that I found out live on air, but that wasn’t true.

I went into the studio at 7.30pm. All phones were off. Ten minutes later, the club informed my lawyer of their decision"


Is this the first time he has explained this?

an impression that Poyet himself gave and certainly did nothing to discourage, even perpetuated. can we take that as a veiled apology?

As we suspected really. Barber came in and the job Poyet was originally given to do was changed from under him. Being a ridiculously (overly) principled man he obviously took offence at this and they fell out. All fair enough really.

falling out and not being happy is fair enough. what isn't was the way he acted in response, his demeanor and attitude in the end of the season. i still maintain he gave up and that showed in the preparation for the play offs. he was unprofessional about it and potentially cost us promotion.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I reckon Barber as from what I've 'eard he narrowed Poyet's remit down a fair bit. Perhaps with good reason, maybe Gus was being unrealistic with some of his demands?

Could be Burke though, true.

I'd agree it's most certainly Barber. I'm not sure Burke had that much real power to impact on Gus

 

[Mellotron]

falling out and not being happy is fair enough. what isn't was the way he acted in response, his demeanor and attitude in the end of the season. i still maintain he gave up and that showed in the preparation for the play offs. he was unprofessional about it and potentially cost us promotion.

I find it hard to agree on this one - I can't believe he would massively sabotage his own career and CV just to "get one over" on ONE employee working at a club he loved. Really?

We went on a big unbeaten run a long time after Barber came in so the tactics and play was still there, I will acknowledge he was less animated on the touchline though, his body language did change.

People do forget how close the Palace 2nd leg was though, it was on a knife edge, Barnes hit the crossbar and had one cleared off the line with his first couple of touches.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I find it hard to agree on this one - I can't believe he would massively sabotage his own career and CV just to "get one over" on ONE employee working at a club he loved. Really?

We went on a big unbeaten run a long time after Barber came in so the tactics and play was still there, I will acknowledge he was less animated on the touchline though, his body language did change.

People do forget how close the Palace 2nd leg was though, it was on a knife edge, Barnes hit the crossbar and had one cleared off the line with his first couple of touches.

I am sure he didn't deliberately set out to lose the Palace game. My take is he allowed himself to be distracted and therefore didn't give the game his full attention. But this is just as bad if you're a professional.

 

[halbpro]

Life's too short to hold onto grudges. It's like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die.

Wait, so that's now how poison works? I may need to go to the hospital.

 

[The Albion Roar]

falling out and not being happy is fair enough. what isn't was the way he acted in response, his demeanor and attitude in the end of the season. i still maintain he gave up and that showed in the preparation for the play offs. he was unprofessional about it and potentially cost us promotion.

And I still say that the results at the end of the season totally belie that notion.

We had our best spell of the season towards the end of 2012/13, especially after Tony Bloom's quote that Gus offered to resign at the time of the Palace 3-0 match.

What's obvious is Gus did not give up. With nine games to go (immediately before the CP game), we were seventh - nine points adrift of Palace, and three points outside a play-off place before that game. We finished fourth, three points ahead of them at the end.

The whole poogate thing was also being used to criticise Gus and the team - and look what ended up happening there.

 

[Acker79]

Life's too short to hold onto grudges. It's like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die.

That works with iocane...

 

[The Albion Roar]

So, a headline that talks about Brighton and the push for the PL but the piece turns out to be 95% about Poyet. Why doesn't that surprise me?

That's the nature of sub-editors.

 

[Javeaseagull]

Other people will always think he was sacked on air as well as thinking someone from Brighton left mess in the opposition changing room. Nothing we can do to change peoples belief in these myths so I guess we just move on.
Yes I do have fond memories of the time and really thought he would do a Mullery, taking us from the third level to the top. Ah well, alls well that ends well and I think we have the perfect manager in place now who will not be constantly touting for "bigger" jobs.

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

Still no reason for him not to deny it though.

True. I suspect it was all exciting - and who wants the truth when there is a good story to be had.

 

[NooBHA]

It was interesting that he openly stated that he never always saw eye to eye with CH while at Spurs. You know, not once has CH ever put that into the public domain if it was in fact true. Perhaps Mr Poyet, your failure to land a new job could be your lack of discretion on what goes on within the clubs you work for.

 

[LlcoolJ]

Steve Evans has just walked into a job - he must be the walking embodiment of a difficult manager

It's the Leeds job though which nobody in their right mind (including Poyet) wanted and which Evans will be sacked from in a month or two.

 

[shaolinpunk]

Yes, it ended badly, but Gus was one of best and most important managers we've ever had and for all of those good times I'll always be grateful to him.

He gave the club an identity on the pitch. He took in players that hadn't lived up to their potential and helped them develop. He took us from League One relegation fodder to Championship contenders in a very short time.

Did he get everything right? No. Was it all perfect? No. But I don't think anyone else that was available at the time would have had quite the same impact.

Sure, he had an ego and yes, he was always keeping an eye out for the top jobs, but these days people are a bit too quick to forget how good he was for us.

 

[El Sid]

People do forget how close the Palace 2nd leg was though, it was on a knife edge, Barnes hit the crossbar and had one cleared off the line with his first couple of touches.

For me the issue was the ill-timed, ill conceived post match comments that left the bitter taste.

 

[Uncle Buck]

I am sure he didn't deliberately set out to lose the Palace game. My take is he allowed himself to be distracted and therefore didn't give the game his full attention. But this is just as bad if you're a professional.

With regards to the Palace home leg, it was the interview that he gave straight after the game that annoyed.

He was asked if he would be with us the following season. He came out with something along the lines of hitting the ceiling, could not see us going any further etc. Once again making the situation about him.

Whilst with the structure in place all those things may have been true at the time, but having lost such an important game, he just needed to come out with the standard, 'disappointed, regroup, come back stronger' etc.

 

[Man of Harveys]

Still no reason for him not to deny it though.

It's so strange isn't it?

You get forcibly dumped out of a job that you've done tremendously well on the flimsiest of pretexts by someone - and yet somehow you don't feel inclined not to have a slight dig back at them when screw up badly by sacking you when you're about to appear on national telly.

I mean, some people.

 

[alfredmizen]

I am sure he didn't deliberately set out to lose the Palace game. My take is he allowed himself to be distracted and therefore didn't give the game his full attention. But this is just as bad if you're a professional.

i agree, managing a promoted side would've increased his stock considerably.

 

[GT49er]

Some very fair comments in that article. Good words about Dick Knight, for example. Yes, he may be trying to get his job back - well, not with us, but to make himself look good for the next half decent opportunity that comes up. All in all, though, I thought it was a good piece - olive branch accepted as far as I'm concerned.