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beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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Really?

So a party whose aim is to break up the UK, and is extremely anti-English, should be looking over the shoulder of the Government and only letting policies it approves get passed?

How does that sit as far as the renewal of Trident goes?

The SNP will be representing the whole of Scotland, not just their voters or the minority who voted for independence, so I cannot see how they can credibly pursue their raison d'être over the next 5 years. And you seem to have forgotten that they already have MPs and vote in parliament so there is no change here; the numbers might increase but then this is just one-MP-one-vote democracy at work. Also, they seem broadly aligned with the Labour Party on a number of key issues so at worst I foresee more debate around these areas which can surely only be a good thing?
 


Herr Tubthumper

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The paradox being that Labour needs its Scottish MPs to form a majority. However the rise of the SNP will obliterate Labour in Scotland and **** up their chances of froming the next government. I reckon the net result of the rise of the SNP will be Cameron back in No 10.

I see it differently with at worst a Labour minority with SNP backing. Time will tell I guess.

As an aside, I am really warming to the idea of a Labour SNP coalition.
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Don Quixote

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There will be no formal coalition with the SNP. No doubt there will have to be another general election later on in the year while Cameron clings to power in a minority government.
 


seagullsovergrimsby

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Aug 21, 2005
43,690
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It has been said that a significant % of the UKIP vote is from traditional Labour support, not just Cons and LD.......

The point I was trying to convey was that the top of the pile target seats UKIP believe are winnable would be beneficial to Labour as the Conservatives could lose 8 or 9 seats whereas Labour could lose 1. UKIP support appears to be from across the whole political spectrum which could affect results in Labour's northern heartlands and there could be constituencies where they oust a traditional party from second to third place.
 




Soulman

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Oct 22, 2012
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Doesn't matter whether it is the Tories or Labour who get in, nothing is going to change.

How about a lower council tax bill for starters. I'm paying £170.00 a month for a band D property under LDC. Why are our council tax bills some of the most expensive in the country? What's so special that LDC need to charge us so much. Lewes is number 8 on the list. http://council-tax-rates.com/index.php/most-expensive-councils Why does nobody protest against this?

And stop sending billions to the EU every year and spending billions on foreign aid where we feel that we get nothing back from it.


The overseas aid budget will increase by an extra £1 billion over the next two years under new European Union rules, it has emerged. The Department for International Development (Dfid) is preparing to change accounting methods in order to bring Britain in line with other EU countries, making it harder to meet the controversial aid target in the next parliament, according to The Times. The UK already spends more than any other country on international agencies and is the second largest aid donor in the world. Government figures released on Thursday reportedly show that Britain met last year's aid spending target of £11.7 billion.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...3825/Aid-budget-to-increase-by-1-billion.html
 


seagullsovergrimsby

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Aug 21, 2005
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The overseas aid budget will increase by an extra £1 billion over the next two years under new European Union rules, it has emerged. The Department for International Development (Dfid) is preparing to change accounting methods in order to bring Britain in line with other EU countries, making it harder to meet the controversial aid target in the next parliament, according to The Times. The UK already spends more than any other country on international agencies and is the second largest aid donor in the world. Government figures released on Thursday reportedly show that Britain met last year's aid spending target of £11.7 billion.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...3825/Aid-budget-to-increase-by-1-billion.html

Absolutely ludicrous that there was £1Bn left in the pot last year with eight weeks to go before the accounting period ended and they had to spend the whole ****ing lot. Why are we sending foreign aid to Argentina when all they want to do is bomb the Falklands ?
 


Soulman

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Oct 22, 2012
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Absolutely ludicrous that there was £1Bn left in the pot last year with eight weeks to go before the accounting period ended and they had to spend the whole ****ing lot. Why are we sending foreign aid to Argentina when all they want to do is bomb the Falklands ?

Why indeed. As mentioned, India who stated years ago they did not want the 1.6 bn sent every year, and have a space programme and 10bn to spend on subs.
Quite a few other foreign aid schemes that should be knocked on the head, but when a politician states that foreign aid should be streamlined he is put down by some.
 




Machiavelli

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Oct 11, 2013
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The paradox being that Labour needs its Scottish MPs to form a majority. However the rise of the SNP will obliterate Labour in Scotland and **** up their chances of froming the next government. I reckon the net result of the rise of the SNP will be Cameron back in No 10.

Can you please explain how this is the case. The Tories currently have one MP. They'll be lucky to keep that one I suspect, but they're not going to be gaining any seats, so how will it result in getting Cameron back into No 10? It's more likely to lead to a minority government or another Coalition, with Labour in charge.
 


Machiavelli

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Oct 11, 2013
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Survation online poll for Mirror - Fieldwork all Apr 3rd
33LAB
31CON
18UKIP
9LD
3GRN

And Ed M's ratings have improved rapidly, with now positive approval ratings of +4%
 


seagullsovergrimsby

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Aug 21, 2005
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Crap Town
Survation online poll for Mirror - Fieldwork all Apr 3rd
33LAB
31CON
18UKIP
9LD
3GRN

And Ed M's ratings have improved rapidly, with now positive approval ratings of +4%

Titanic won't like that :eek:
 


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Why indeed. As mentioned, India who stated years ago they did not want the 1.6 bn sent every year, and have a space programme and 10bn to spend on subs.
Quite a few other foreign aid schemes that should be knocked on the head, but when a politician states that foreign aid should be streamlined he is put down by some.

We are biggest overseas aid contributors in the EU, Can you guess which countries pay the least without looking it up?
 




Machiavelli

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Oct 11, 2013
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Fiveways
Titanic won't like that :eek:

Given the number of times that [MENTION=36]Titanic[/MENTION] has implied that he's been investing his money on the Tories, he might just not like what goes on on May 7. Not only do the Tories need a consistent 3 or 4 point lead to get a majority, or even be the largest party, they're also performing poorly in the key marginals. I'm almost tempted to get some money on Labour as largest party, although a Labour minority government is the favourite with all the bookies, ranging from 15/8 to 9/4.
 


seagullsovergrimsby

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Aug 21, 2005
43,690
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Keep up at the back. It's the Telegraph making it up again

I'm surprised the Telegraph hasn't been renamed "Der Angriff" for this election campaign.
 


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