Gus gets the boot

[Thunder Bolt]

Nothing surprising there.
Those in the Gus fan club, seem to ignore the fact that he was doing exactly the same at Brighton. Eventually, his ego just ran away with him and he saw nothing wrong in having two meetings at Reading, whilst our season was still going on. He didn't see anything wrong in indicating to Reading that he was happy to accept their offer. He didn't stop Reading holding internal meetings with players and staff, to inform that GP was going to be their next manager. He saw nothing wrong in returning to BHA, informing them of Reading's interest and expecting them to improve his terms accordingly.
Reading pulled the plug on Poyet. Brighton pulled the plug on Poyet and surprise, surprise, so have Sunderland.
The man cannot be trusted. He is an odious individual, manipulating and pulling strings to suit himself. A hand-wringing smooth ' Uriah Heap ' Chairmen keep him on a tight rein because they don't trust him. His record speaks for itself. Goodness knows how many other clubs he tried to seduce whilst at BHA. No wonder TB lost patience with him.

He had permission to talk to Reading.

 

[Tricky Dicky]

Advocaat apponted. No way did they arrange that overnight, they must have been looking for a while, and who can blame them, it was only going to go one way.

 

[Brovion]

Nothing surprising there.
Those in the Gus fan club, seem to ignore the fact that he was doing exactly the same at Brighton. Eventually, his ego just ran away with him and he saw nothing wrong in having two meetings at Reading, whilst our season was still going on. He didn't see anything wrong in indicating to Reading that he was happy to accept their offer. He didn't stop Reading holding internal meetings with players and staff, to inform that GP was going to be their next manager. He saw nothing wrong in returning to BHA, informing them of Reading's interest and expecting them to improve his terms accordingly.
Reading pulled the plug on Poyet. Brighton pulled the plug on Poyet and surprise, surprise, so have Sunderland.
The man cannot be trusted. He is an odious individual, manipulating and pulling strings to suit himself. A hand-wringing smooth ' Uriah Heap ' Chairmen keep him on a tight rein because they don't trust him. His record speaks for itself. Goodness knows how many other clubs he tried to seduce whilst at BHA. No wonder TB lost patience with him.

Hmm. So was that the reason for the Gross Misconduct charge?

EDIT: ... and I've just seen Thunderbolt's reply so obviously not it wasn't. Carry on everybody.

 

[Tricky Dicky]

I think events of the last couple of years have put the kybosh on him ever managing his beloved Chelsea or Spurs ... Leeds maybe

 

[Icy Gull]

Hmm. So was that the reason for the Gross Misconduct charge?

EDIT: ... and I've just seen Thunderbolt's reply so obviously not it wasn't. Carry on everybody.

I think there was rumour of unsanctioned talks with Fulham too. I can see him ending up there or at Leeds. I think he has blown any chance of another Premier club until he rebuilds his career

 

[Brovion]

I think there was rumour of unsanctioned talks with Fulham too.

Yeah, I'd heard that (just rumour). I wonder if we're allowed to discuss this now or is the club still jumpy about how/why Poyet left?

 

[Billy in Bristol]

He still has a tremendous amount of friends in the media, an example being Lineker's half time comments. However, there is always the Guardian's North East football writer, Louise Taylor, she has been a constant critic of la Poyet and her epitaph this morning is one to be read by both sides of our own Poyet debate

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2015/mar/16/gus-poyet-sunderland-sack

 

[deletebeepbeepbeep]

There's something wrong with you.

I think it's called battered wives syndrome.

 

[Icy Gull]

He still has a tremendous amount of friends in the media, an example being Lineker's half time comments. However, there is always the Guardian's North East football writer, Louise Taylor, she has been a constant critic of la Poyet and her epitaph this morning is one to be read by both sides of our own Poyet debate

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2015/mar/16/gus-poyet-sunderland-sack

Seems fair enough, it was clearly somebody else's fault, not Poyets.

 

[Bwian]

Could say the same thing about Murray. Palace offered him a longer contract and a lot more money.

Poyet could have paid Murray what he was after and our season could have been very different. Could have been, not would have been. Poyet wanted a marquee signing so we got CMS to stoke his ego.

Poyet has proven himself to be very limited as a manager/head coach, he lets his ego rule his head which leads to some incredibly poor decision making. Was he not in charge when we let the likes of Elphick and Cook leave the club? Both could have been nurtured by Poyet and our aging defence would be much less of a problem.

There's no question that when he was appointed it gave the whole club a lift. Add that to The Amex nearing completion and it shouldn't be a surprise that The Albion had some momentum. He was also a 'name' that attracted some decent players here. His football was often great to watch. It was also dreadful to watch in equal measures-I can't remember The Albion having zero shots on target for 90 minutes except under Poyet. We also battered Charlton at The Valley in one of the best team performances I have seen.

He has damaged his reputation with his touting himself for other jobs at his last 2 clubs when total concentration on the job at hand was required. There will always be a club willing to take a chance on him in the belief that 'this time he will show respect to us because he has changed' only to find out in less than 18 months that he hasn't.Thankfully, he is not our problem anymore but it is interesting to see history repeating itself in such a short period of time.

 

[Justice]

All this for a manager who has only won a league one promotion.

 

[Crispy Ambulance]

Yeah, I'd heard that (just rumour). I wonder if we're allowed to discuss this now or is the club still jumpy about how/why Poyet left?

On the day of the play off semi final 2nd leg, if the rumours are true!

 

[fat old seagull]

He had permission to talk to Reading.

Well if he did, it's almost a bigger disgrace that he had his mind on moving when we were in a reasonable position to get promotion. What sort of example does that set to the squad ?
His sacking was no more than he deserved. He's not a good manager just because he can get some decent players to pass the ball in Div 1. Glad he's gone, would like to feel sorry for his disciples but serves them right too.
I feel Hughton has ten fold more loyalty in his genes than Poyet.

 

[ROSM]

Well if he did, it's almost a bigger disgrace that he had his mind on moving when we were in a reasonable position to get promotion. What sort of example does that set to the squad ?
His sacking was no more than he deserved. He's not a good manager just because he can get some decent players to pass the ball in Div 1. Glad he's gone, would like to feel sorry for his disciples but serves them right too.
I feel Hughton has ten fold more loyalty in his genes than Poyet.

I am astounded at the level of revisionist theories this thread has spawned.

The accepted position at the time was that when Paul Barber was appointed (a man who had been part of the spurs board that had sacked Poyet and ramos at spurs) it was patently obvious they wouldn't get on. Whether the reason for the appointment was partly to help curb the creative but frustrating Uruguayan is more unclear

When noone was sold, Gp was not happy and told a number of senior club figures that.

Over the winter while TB was warming up in oz, the Barber/Poyet relationship went from bad to worse

When TB returned (just before the palace home game) , Gp advised he would be resigning. If it was a me or barber move then TB clearly chose barber but it was agreed that Gus would stay to the summer but could speak to other clubs (I'm sure the albion would have preferred if he was to go to get some compensation)

Reading approached and under the agreement, Gus was able to speak to them but chose to stay

We then went on that amazing run to the season end where we nearly snatched an automatic place

Then he gets suspended and ultimately sacked

So, ultimately speaking to reading is not disloyal, speaking to Fulham wouldn't have been misconduct, it didn't affect the team. Nobody lost out on that whole scenario except, in the end, probably a handful of people loyal to Gp who are no.longer working for the club.

Please also note I haven't put blame on anybody in this post. I have my views on how the parting was handled bit that's not for this conversation.

I am.finding it hard to revel.in the sacking of a man who developed a style of play and a number of performances that have been the best I have witnessed in 40 years of supporting the club.

 

[Bombadier Botty]

Talk about Groundhog Day!

The Manager who could not wait to be sacked
Discussion in 'Pure Football' started by andysafc24, Today at 7:12 AM.


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[Crispy Ambulance]

speaking to Fulham wouldn't have been misconduct, it didn't affect the team.

Would it have been gross misconduct if a) there was no permission from the Albion to do so, and b) as a result of doing so and becoming caught up in heavy traffic on the way back from doing so, it affected the individual's ability to properly undertake pre-match duties for the club who employed him?

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

So the rumours are that Poyet fell out with Barber.

And the rumours are that Poyet fell out with De Fanti ( sacked ), and then fell out with Congleton, at Sunderland.


Seems to fall out a lot with senior club figures.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

Would it have been gross misconduct if a) there was no permission from the Albion to do so, and b) as a result of doing so and becoming caught up in heavy traffic on the way back from doing so, it affected the individual's ability to properly undertake pre-match duties for the club who employed him?

That would not be good, if true.

 

[Wozza]

Advocaat apponted. No way did they arrange that overnight, they must have been looking for a while, and who can blame them, it was only going to go one way.

They've replaced one Dick with another.

Ha ha. Hahahahahah.

 

[Man of Harveys]

I d have him back at the drop of a hat.class manager and my favorite to manage us he has also made us a fair bit of cash.good luck Gus

Sssh. You can't say anything positive about him, don't forget. You're being shamelessly disloyal if you dare to suggest that he wasn't the anti-Christ incarnate all the time he was with us, remember?

Never mind the fact that other managers - even Brighton ones - have also been pretty shameless about saying that they wouldn't mind managing at a higher level some day too, nor that he was bound to clash head-on with Barber from the second that the Nation's Greatest CEO was appointed.

No, it's all Gus' fault and as a result of being a cocky so'n'so, he's now left crying to himself in a corner somewhere, with only his millions for company. JUSTICE.