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I very much doubt The Level gets as many visitors as Stanmer. That said, The Level is very good.
Across the whole week and the whole year, I'm guessing that The Level edges it.

There are, of course, no season ticket sales to distort the numbers. But neither are there turnstiles to check them.
 






Hamilton

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 7, 2003
12,507
Brighton
Across the whole week and the whole year, I'm guessing that The Level edges it.

There are, of course, no season ticket sales to distort the numbers. But neither are there turnstiles to check them.

Make Paul Barber CEO of the Level and then there will be no need for debate and [MENTION=4156]glasfryn[/MENTION] will have to bow down.
 




ThePompousPaladin

New member
Apr 7, 2013
1,025
Apologies if already mentioned....

I see quite a few 'left wing' board 'members' putting the hate on UKIP in this thread, surely UKIP is a good thing if you are left wing as it will divide the right wing vote.

Any labourites in Hove tempted to put up UKIP posters in their windows and vote labour? ;)

Just a thought....
 


clapham_gull

Legacy Fan
Aug 20, 2003
25,426
Best result of the day

The sneering snob Thornberry has gone

Which is why I've never been able to vote for them since Blair.

The party is infested with sneering urban types like above.

I separate my politics from political parties. I find it fascinating that people cheer a party like a football team as if the party is telling them what to bellef rather than the other way round.

I don't vote as I've said that many times on here. Personal circumstances make it a waste of time statistically having never lived in a constituency where it makes a difference.

My personal opinion is that UKIP's "power" or rather the media fascinationing with them is simply damaging and splitting the Tories. Hard to call the next election. Today I would bet on a tiny Labour majority, but who knows ?
 






DavidinSouthampton

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Jan 3, 2012
16,614
Apologies if already mentioned....

I see quite a few 'left wing' board 'members' putting the hate on UKIP in this thread, surely UKIP is a good thing if you are left wing as it will divide the right wing vote.

Any labourites in Hove tempted to put up UKIP posters in their windows a. nd vote labour? ;)

Just a thought....

Could this become a serious strategy?

But I would still last night have seen a conservative victory, and last night after question time I found myself I could almost vote for a party led by Ken Clarke.... But only almost.

I think the General Election will be fascinating, and possibly very depressing, but if it is what people want........
 


Green Cross Code Man

Wunt be druv
Mar 30, 2006
19,734
Eastbourne
Apologies if already mentioned....

I see quite a few 'left wing' board 'members' putting the hate on UKIP in this thread, surely UKIP is a good thing if you are left wing as it will divide the right wing vote.

Any labourites in Hove tempted to put up UKIP posters in their windows and vote labour? ;)

Just a thought....
I wouldn't be so certain that UKIP won't also take votes from Labour. The by election in Manchester (Stockton?) earlier this year showed that. With Labour's impending disaster in Scotland, this could be enough to keep them out of power.
 


Gwylan

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
31,358
Uffern
last night after question time I found myself I could almost vote for a party led by Ken Clarke.... But only almost.

Ken Clarke sounded more left wing than Andy Burnham. I wonder if Clarke will end up leaving the Tories ... although there's nowhere really for him to go to. Perhaps he should start a British Christian Democrat-like party
 




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Good old question time where the audience only claps because everyone else does, and where the audience finds someone to hate for the duration of the programme. Please BBC can we have some balance

If Labour want to win back supporters from UKIP, why did the Labour guy on Question Time once again have to mention BNP in the same conversation as UKIP, seriously it pisses people off. After 15 years, it's now OK for Labour to talk tough on immigration and restricting benefits to migrants for 2 years, but it's not OK for UKIP to call for a proper immigration system. Labour are seriously not winning anyone over at the moment.
 


daveinprague

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Oct 1, 2009
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It could be because quite a few of the prospective UKIP candidates in elections, and a large amount of members, have been found to have previous BNP connections. As you know.
 


Hastings gull

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Nov 23, 2013
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I wouldn't be so certain that UKIP won't also take votes from Labour. The by election in Manchester (Stockton?) earlier this year showed that. With Labour's impending disaster in Scotland, this could be enough to keep them out of power.

It was near Rochdale and UKIP polled 11000 votes, narrowly behind the labour candidate with 1000 more. I think the reason that one thinks that they will split the right-wing vote, is because there have been by-elections of late in two tory strongholds, obviously Rochdale accepted, and on here it is the hope from some that this will happen. I can't help feeling that this is not just the case for the tories, as Labour know they they too could end up with a bloody nose, hence the recent announcement about immigration. Immigrants tend to settle together and this tends to be in poorer areas, which puts pressure on public services in those areas. With the best will in the world, it is inevitable that tensions will rise in predominantly labour-supporting parts of industrial towns. The snobbery shown yesterday will only fuel the belief that the Westminster "champagne socialists" are so out of touch and encourage yet more disillusionment. We can call UKIP voters "racist" (that good old term brought out time and time again) but until people's fears about what they perceive as excessive immigration are allayed, UKIP will continue to grow. You can say to immigration that enough is enough, and needs limiting or even stopping, and not be a "racist", believe it or not.
 




Green Cross Code Man

Wunt be druv
Mar 30, 2006
19,734
Eastbourne
It was near Rochdale and UKIP polled 11000 votes, narrowly behind the labour candidate with 1000 more. I think the reason that one thinks that they will split the right-wing vote, is because there have been by-elections of late in two tory strongholds, obviously Rochdale accepted, and on here it is the hope from some that this will happen. I can't help feeling that this is not just the case for the tories, as Labour know they they too could end up with a bloody nose, hence the recent announcement about immigration. Immigrants tend to settle together and this tends to be in poorer areas, which puts pressure on public services in those areas. With the best will in the world, it is inevitable that tensions will rise in predominantly labour-supporting parts of industrial towns. The snobbery shown yesterday will only fuel the belief that the Westminster "champagne socialists" are so out of touch and encourage yet more disillusionment. We can call UKIP voters "racist" (that good old term brought out time and time again) but until people's fears about what they perceive as excessive immigration are allayed, UKIP will continue to grow. You can say to immigration that enough is enough, and needs limiting or even stopping, and not be a "racist", believe it or not.
Exactly.
 




Hastings gull

Well-known member
Nov 23, 2013
4,635
It could be because quite a few of the prospective UKIP candidates in elections, and a large amount of members, have been found to have previous BNP connections. As you know.

11000 voters in Rochdale and 12000 in the tory stronghold a couple of weeks ago and 16000 yesterday -if this is the case, then why is it that the BNP were only ever on the fringes? This is pure speculation designed to fuel your own prejudices, and quite clearly has no factual base. People are worried about the future, and the vast majority do NOT seek racial confrontation -we in Britain have a long history of tolerance and long may it live, but clearly large numbers feel that enough is enough.
 


Garage_Doors

Originally the Swankers
Jun 28, 2008
11,789
Brighton
Good grief!

You won't listen, will you?

I get berated and told I have blind faith for believing what my own children tell me and then you tell me to trust what a couple of people on an internet forum tell me !, one of which has a proven liar, that’s quite unbelievable LB isn’t it.

Here's a challenge. I'd like people to give some thought to this question and name a single public open space anywhere in England that is as popular with families and as well used by folk of all ages as The Level.


Green park
Regent park
Hyde park.
The list is endless and to be fair and was a silly question, Im guessing you had something to do with the regeneration of it? as you seem to view this small area through rose tinted glasses.
 




daveinprague

New member
Oct 1, 2009
12,572
Prague, Czech Republic
11000 voters in Rochdale and 12000 in the tory stronghold a couple of weeks ago and 16000 yesterday -if this is the case, then why is it that the BNP were only ever on the fringes? This is pure speculation designed to fuel your own prejudices, and quite clearly has no factual base. People are worried about the future, and the vast majority do NOT seek racial confrontation -we in Britain have a long history of tolerance and long may it live, but clearly large numbers feel that enough is enough.

Ok, ex-BNP members didnt seek to be UKIP candidates, and in some cases, didnt really get the the job.


http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/apr/25/some-ukip-candidates-possible-bnp-members


I wonder what draws ex BNP members to UKIP. Its a puzzle.
 
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