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General Election Poll

Who would you vote for if the Elections were tomorrow?


  • Total voters
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Lincoln Imp

Well-known member
Feb 2, 2009
5,964
There could be a lot more tactical voting at the next general election. How you vote might depend on what constituency you live in. For example, eurosceptic Tories might attract votes from folk who might otherwise vote for UKIP. LibDems in Lewes might continue to attract Labour voters to keep the Tories out. Green supporters in Hove might vote Labour.

Asking people how they will vote isn't asking the same question as asking who they want to win the election.

You're right but living in Mid Sussex I can proudly boast that after a lifetime of voting my efforts have had not the slightest effect on a single result.
 




jimbob5

Banned
Sep 18, 2014
2,697
UKIP will do better than 2010, Lib Dems will do worse but not as bad as people say, Labour will do a little better but Milliband might be a liability, the Tories will do a little worse. A bit like 1992 but with UKIP thrown in the mix and the government being a coalition rather than Tory with a honeymoon leader. My little brain says a narrow Labour majority but my heart struggles to see Ed Milliband as PM.
 


If you are saying that a Labour voter cannot expect a Tory MP to ask a question in the house, then you do not know what you are talking about. I have seen it done. Many many times.
I'm not saying that at all. Before he became a minister, "my" MP (Norman Baker) asked thousands of questions, most of which I was happy to see him ask, and a few of which I might even claim to have prompted him to ask. But that doesn't mean to say that I ever voted for him. Nor does it mean that I was ever inhibited from lobbying him to speak up on behalf of a cause I believe in.
 


midnight_rendezvous

Well-known member
Aug 10, 2012
3,737
The Black Country
Voted UKIP, those damn Brussels bureaucrats make my blood boil

Now I don't want this to turn into a binfest but do you actually know any other UKIP policies other than their stance on Europe? A lot of people seem to only be pledging to vote UKIP for their policies on Europe and immigration. I'm not saying you're one of them but I am genuinely interest in what people think about their other policies.
 


My "blood would be boiling" if there was any suggestion that bureaucrats in Brussels were doing anything other than implementing the terms of the treaties that the EU member states had signed up to.
 




jimbob5

Banned
Sep 18, 2014
2,697
Now I don't want this to turn into a binfest but do you actually know any other UKIP policies other than their stance on Europe? A lot of people seem to only be pledging to vote UKIP for their policies on Europe and immigration. I'm not saying you're one of them but I am genuinely interest in what people think about their other policies.
I think people vote UKIP as a protest against Brussels pigs in the trough and lax immigration policies which work against the british working and lower middle classes. Skin colour is of no relevance whatsoever btw for the vast majority. Many prospective UKIP voters would be wary of them actually getting into Government though.
 


StonehamPark

#Brighton-Nil
Oct 30, 2010
9,794
BC, Canada
Now I don't want this to turn into a binfest but do you actually know any other UKIP policies other than their stance on Europe? A lot of people seem to only be pledging to vote UKIP for their policies on Europe and immigration. I'm not saying you're one of them but I am genuinely interest in what people think about their other policies.

I think people vote UKIP as a protest against Brussels pigs in the trough and lax immigration policies which work against the british working and lower middle classes. Skin colour is of no relevance whatsoever btw for the vast majority. Many prospective UKIP voters would be wary of them actually getting into Government though.

I'm a UKIP voter and welcome almost all of their policies.
My vote won't be in protest but I imagine there will be many 'protest votes' going to UKIP.

http://www.ukip.org/policies_for_people

http://www.ukip.org/issues
 


midnight_rendezvous

Well-known member
Aug 10, 2012
3,737
The Black Country






KingstonSeagull

New member
May 1, 2013
2,185
Shoreditch
For those who were wondering.

UKIP Policies in Brief:

EU Membership
UKIP will leave the political EU and trade globally and freely. We will re-embrace today’s fast-growing Commonwealth and we will encourage UK manufacturing so that we make things again.

Immigration
We will freeze immigration for five years, speed up deportation of up to a million illegal immigrants by tripling the numbers engaged in deportations, and have ‘no home no visa’ work permits to ease the housing crisis.

Education
We will have a grammar school in every town. We will restore standards of education and improve skills training. Student grants will replace student loans.

Healthcare
We will radically reform the working of the NHS with an Insurance Fund, whilst upholding the ‘free at the point of care’ principles. We will bring back matrons and have locally run, clean hospitals.

Law & Order
We will give people the vote on policing priorities, go back to proper beat policing and scrap the Human Rights Act. We will have sentences that mean what they say.

Taxation
We will take 4.5 million people out of tax with a simple Flat Tax (with National Insurance) starting at £10,000. We will scrap Inheritance Tax, not just reform it and cut corporation taxes.

Energy
We will say No to green taxes and wind farms. To avert a major energy crisis, we will go for new nuclear power plants on the same existing site facilities and for clean coal. We will reduce pollution and encourage recycling.

Welfare
We will make welfare simpler and fairer, introduce ‘workfare’ to get people back to work, and a new citizens pension and private pensions scheme insurance.

Defence
We will support our armed forces with more spending on equipment, military homes and medical care. We will save our threatened warships and add 25,000 more troops.

Democracy & Equality
We will be fair to England, with an English Parliament of English MPs at Westminster. We will replace assembly members like MSPs with MPs. And we will promote referenda at local and national levels.

Transport
We will make customer satisfaction number one for rail firms – not cost cutting and will look seriously at reopening some rail lines that Beeching closed. We will make foreign lorries pay for British roads with a ‘Britdisc’ and we will stop persecuting motorists.

Agriculture & Fishing
Last, but never least, we will bring in fair prices and fair competition for our suffering farmers, and restore traditional British fishing and territorial waters.
 






For those who were wondering.

UKIP Policies in Brief:

EU Membership
UKIP will leave the political EU and trade globally and freely. We will re-embrace today’s fast-growing Commonwealth and we will encourage UK manufacturing so that we make things again.

Immigration
We will freeze immigration for five years, speed up deportation of up to a million illegal immigrants by tripling the numbers engaged in deportations, and have ‘no home no visa’ work permits to ease the housing crisis.

Education
We will have a grammar school in every town. We will restore standards of education and improve skills training. Student grants will replace student loans.

Healthcare
We will radically reform the working of the NHS with an Insurance Fund, whilst upholding the ‘free at the point of care’ principles. We will bring back matrons and have locally run, clean hospitals.

Law & Order
We will give people the vote on policing priorities, go back to proper beat policing and scrap the Human Rights Act. We will have sentences that mean what they say.

Taxation
We will take 4.5 million people out of tax with a simple Flat Tax (with National Insurance) starting at £10,000. We will scrap Inheritance Tax, not just reform it and cut corporation taxes.

Energy
We will say No to green taxes and wind farms. To avert a major energy crisis, we will go for new nuclear power plants on the same existing site facilities and for clean coal. We will reduce pollution and encourage recycling.

Welfare
We will make welfare simpler and fairer, introduce ‘workfare’ to get people back to work, and a new citizens pension and private pensions scheme insurance.

Defence
We will support our armed forces with more spending on equipment, military homes and medical care. We will save our threatened warships and add 25,000 more troops.

Democracy & Equality
We will be fair to England, with an English Parliament of English MPs at Westminster. We will replace assembly members like MSPs with MPs. And we will promote referenda at local and national levels.

Transport
We will make customer satisfaction number one for rail firms – not cost cutting and will look seriously at reopening some rail lines that Beeching closed. We will make foreign lorries pay for British roads with a ‘Britdisc’ and we will stop persecuting motorists.

Agriculture & Fishing
Last, but never least, we will bring in fair prices and fair competition for our suffering farmers, and restore traditional British fishing and territorial waters.
Thanks for that. It's handy to have a simple list of lots of reasons not to vote UKIP.
 


Biscuit Barrel

Well-known member
Jan 28, 2014
2,450
Southwick
Bearing in mind what was said after the last two by-elections ...

"Vote UKIP and get Labour" (Cameron);
"Vote Conservative and get Labour" (Farage);
"Vote Labour" (Miliband) …



… it's difficult to see anything but a Labour landslide looming.

Labour are struggling to hold on to their safe seats during the recent by-elections. I will not be voting for UKIP but I know more Labour supporters who will be voting UKIP at the next election than I do Conservative defectors. I just can't see enough people trusting Labour with the British economy. It is only just recovering from the last mess Labour left it in. Personally I would not trust Ed Balls to run a tuck shop.
 


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,332
No. I refuse to vote tactically. You are supposed to vote for the mp you want to represent you at parliament. If you do anything else you are part of the problem.
We really do need a better voting system to stop this nonsense.

absolutely. but so many just vote for the colour of the rosette based on tribal allegiance or because they like the leader. with this in mind, tactical voting does make sense. i dont think the voting system per se needs change, but something about the party system needs to be addressed.
 




jimbob5

Banned
Sep 18, 2014
2,697
Labour are struggling to hold on to their safe seats during the recent by-elections. I will not be voting for UKIP but I know more Labour supporters who will be voting UKIP at the next election than I do Conservative defectors. I just can't see enough people trusting Labour with the British economy. It is only just recovering from the last mess Labour left it in. Personally I would not trust Ed Balls to run a tuck shop.
There you have two opposing views. I suspect th truth is somewhere in the middle.
 


midnight_rendezvous

Well-known member
Aug 10, 2012
3,737
The Black Country
Labour are struggling to hold on to their safe seats during the recent by-elections. I will not be voting for UKIP but I know more Labour supporters who will be voting UKIP at the next election than I do Conservative defectors. I just can't see enough people trusting Labour with the British economy. It is only just recovering from the last mess Labour left it in. Personally I would not trust Ed Balls to run a tuck shop.

How? The Tories have us in more national debt than ever before.
 


Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,086
The arse end of Hangleton
Not a good call.

You won't get an accurate reflection of voting intentions - after all when you actually vote it is not public.

There's hardly a similarity between a poll on NSC and a real world election is there ?

You're seriously suggesting that because a poll on here is a public one that some posters are either too scared to vote or will vote differently to a private poll ? Despite being relatively anonymous behind their username ?
 






beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,332
How? The Tories have us in more national debt than ever before.

its shocking after all these years of discussion on the subject, people still dont understand the basic workings of the public finances. the debt cant be touched while running a deficit, and the deficit is a carry over from Labour's spending plans and commitments. national budgets are drawn up over several year time scales and unless you completely cut a service (i.e. to 0) it will remain in the budget forever. (this doesn't excuse that Osborn has not reversed the deficit as quickly as he could have or claimed he would)
 


Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
32,165
Valhalla
There's hardly a similarity between a poll on NSC and a real world election is there ?

You're seriously suggesting that because a poll on here is a public one that some posters are either too scared to vote or will vote differently to a private poll ? Despite being relatively anonymous behind their username ?

I'm suggesting an anonymous poll would be more accurate. No more or less than that.
 


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