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Garage_Doors

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Jun 28, 2008
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That's a bit tenuous, bearing in mind the roundabout was there at 8:30 this morning, and needs to be gone by 3:30 next Saturday. (seven days later)

That's why the 7 days was mentioned, as the race is in 7 days time, therefore it would have to be done within 7 days and i did'nt believe it could be done in 7 days,
Not sure what your meaning by "Like I said not believing the facts, when presented with them, is the NSC way."
No facts have been presented have they?, just a guy stating in a podcast, or do you believe it because he said it, it is fact?
Anyhow as stated above they are coming from the other way (from the east) so the race would be over before they reach the roundabout, so maybe the route has change since that podcast?
 




The Birdman

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Nov 30, 2008
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Haywards Heath
Are they better than Burgys in South Rd, my usual choice in HH but I think Burgess Hill is better served with cafes etc for breakfast.
But the race is going through Haywards Heath not past the new Weatherspoon's in Church Walk. Burgys is okay but South Road will be rammed.
South road which is A272 will become the B2272 with the new relief road opening becoming the A272.
 


Stat Brother

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Jul 11, 2003
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That's why the 7 days was mentioned, as the race is in 7 days time, therefore it would have to be done within 7 days and i did'nt believe it could be done in 7 days,
Not sure what your meaning by "Like I said not believing the facts, when presented with them, is the NSC way."
No facts have been presented have they?, just a guy stating in a podcast, or do you believe it because he said it, it is fact?
Anyhow as stated above they are coming from the other way (from the east) so the race would be over before they reach the roundabout, so maybe the route has change since that podcast?
For someone with a truly bizarre hatred of world class international sport coming to town, attracting tens of thousands of visitors and hundreds of thousands of pounds, plus a live national, European and global TV audience, you are making this very difficult.

You have now listened the the man in change of the event.
He is responsible for all the towns and cities participation.
He has recced the whole event.
He has said Brighton Council said they would take out the roundabout.

Coming from the East makes the turn even sharper.
The race will be trying to get 100+ riders round a near u-turn at 40+mph, they'll need all the space they can get.

Yet you don't believe it, but don't understand the concept of:-

"Like I said not believing the facts, when presented with them, is the NSC way."


I will find out if they have done it, or not, on Saturday.
 


dougdeep

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SUNNY SEAFORD
The best spot will be at sunny Seaford.
 


clippedgull

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Aug 11, 2003
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Right I'm hooked! I recorded and have watched back Stage 1! I have questions but will ask tomorrow in case anyone doesn't know the result! One question though

When teams 'protect' the main man what exactly are they doing to protect him?
 




Stat Brother

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Right I'm hooked! I recorded and have watched back Stage 1! I have questions but will ask tomorrow in case anyone doesn't know the result! One question though

When teams 'protect' the main man what exactly are they doing to protect him?
Firstly feel free to head over to Geeks, where no question goes unanswered.

The 'protected' rider is the one the team deem to have the best chance of winning the stage/race.

Firstly they'll always ride with team mates in front, as that saves about 30% energy.
(if you watch closely the first few riders will pedal like loons, while everybody else is freewheeling, think F1)

The 'protected' rider won't have to get his own food and drink from the team car.
Should an accident happen away from the team cars, the protected rider will be given a team mates bike, who then has to wait for the car.
 


BensGrandad

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Jul 13, 2003
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But the race is going through Haywards Heath not past the new Weatherspoon's in Church Walk. Burgys is okay but South Road will be rammed.
South road which is A272 will become the B2272 with the new relief road opening becoming the A272.

Couldnt think of anything more boring than watching even more people on bikes, it is the breakfast I want. Must admit I hadnt thought about the renumbering of South Rd and the new relief road.
 


clippedgull

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Aug 11, 2003
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Firstly feel free to head over to Geeks, where no question goes unanswered.

The 'protected' rider is the one the team deem to have the best chance of winning the stage/race.

Firstly they'll always ride with team mates in front, as that saves about 30% energy.
(if you watch closely the first few riders will pedal like loons, while everybody else is freewheeling, think F1)

This is where is gets confusing! Are they being 'dragged' hence your reference to F1?
 








Pogue Mahone

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Apr 30, 2011
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Couldnt think of anything more boring than watching even more people on bikes, it is the breakfast I want. Must admit I hadnt thought about the renumbering of South Rd and the new relief road.

What could possibly motivate you to come onto a thread discussing the joys of watching cycling to tell us that you find it boring?

You have mistaken me, and all people who are looking forward to a fantastic event passing through our wonderful County, for people who might give a shit about what you think.
 




Pogue Mahone

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This is where is gets confusing! Are they being 'dragged' hence your reference to F1?

They use 30% less effort, so yes! it's a bit like being dragged. Even going cycling with two or three mates increases the average speed substantially.

In 'sprint' stages you will see the sprinters' teams making 'trains' as they approach the finish, and one rider after another will bury himself with the effort of keeping their team's sprinter up near the front before peeling off when they are spent. The sprinter is then 'catapulted' towards the finish by his last lead out rider with about 150 metres to go.
 


BensGrandad

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I was interested to read how a few bikes will completely f..k up the traffic in Haywards Heath, it is bad enough normally with them heading for Ditchling to walk up to the beacon.
 


Pogue Mahone

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I was interested to read how a few bikes will completely f..k up the traffic in Haywards Heath, it is bad enough normally with them heading for Ditchling to walk up to the beacon.

Oh dear God. It's for ONE DAY! It's an International sporting event that will live long in many peoples' memories and bring loads of money into the local economy. It'll be a party, a fiesta. You are a sad old man.
 




Stat Brother

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This is where is gets confusing! Are they being 'dragged' hence your reference to F1?
As Stoichkov says, very much so.

I know it is hard to imagine as 'it's only pushbikes', but the difference is massive.

I ride with a fella considerably better/stronger than myself.
If we're out on a 'Strava ride' (kind of Facebook for cyclists linked to our bike computers with records) and I drop more than just 2 bike lengths off his wheel, I've had it and would never get back onto his rear wheel.
When comfortable with who you're riding with, you'd expect the front wheel to be just a couple of cms behind the person in front's back wheel.


Oh and when, say Cav, finally does come off that last wheel, it's like riding into a brick wall, while throwing an anchor out the back, and yet those boys still manage to crank up the pace still further, but only in a short burst.

***SPOILER FOR TODAY***

Going back to today's finish.
Blythe was left on his own, so he went like a rocket suicidally early.
Unfortunately for him the winner had a rider wise to the situation.
So the winners right hand man, buried himself to close the gap.
Taking the winner, Kittel, with him.
It then became a straight forward victory, because Blythe's early attack nullified all the other teams.
 
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The Birdman

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Nov 30, 2008
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Couldnt think of anything more boring than watching even more people on bikes, it is the breakfast I want. Must admit I hadnt thought about the renumbering of South Rd and the new relief road.

Maybe you could come and support the Army band instead which have been invited to march and play at Haywards Heath Town Day in Victoria park on Saturday . You can still have your Breakfast.!
 


clippedgull

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Aug 11, 2003
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They use 30% less effort, so yes! it's a bit like being dragged. Even going cycling with two or three mates increases the average speed substantially.

In 'sprint' stages you will see the sprinters' teams making 'trains' as they approach the finish, and one rider after another will bury himself with the effort of keeping their team's sprinter up near the front before peeling off when they are spent. The sprinter is then 'catapulted' towards the finish by his last lead out rider with about 150 metres to go.

Cheers!

Yes I saw the 'train' nearing the end of todays stage.
 








Stat Brother

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Cheers!

Yes I saw the 'train' nearing the end of todays stage.
I don't think there are too many sprint finishes on this years Tour.

Brighton might be, but obviously Ditchling Beacon will have a say in that.

The riders around the protected rider(s) are domestiques, they do the donkey work, fetching and carrying, as well as setting the pace, and generally controlling the main field (peloton).

If your looking out for Team Sky, Ian Stannard will be one of their main riders, you'll never here of him at the finish, but the team wouldn't function without the work he'll be doing from say 100 kms down to 20 kms.
 


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