Danny Graham to Forest

[portslade seagull]

That won't happen.
FFP was a decision of football league club chairmen and from memory only a small handful voted against.
You can make your own rules and ignore them but I don't fancy the chance of taking that to a court.

What will probably happen is that there will be no meaningful penalties to begin with.

There will be no penalties just a telling off. To make it work they need to target the biggest club flouting the rules but we all know that will not happen

 

[Horses Arse]

There will be no penalties just a telling off. To make it work they need to target the biggest club flouting the rules but we all know that will not happen

The legal case by those keeping within the ffp regs will be interesting too. Put at a disadvantage by sticking by the rules; if the process and fines/embargo's aren't applied when due it could all get rather messy.

 

[GingerBeerMan]

Only 1 team demonstrating that in the top 10 I think

Burnley? Or Deby? I can't decide.

 

[portslade seagull]

Burnley? Or Deby? I can't decide.

You thing they are paying less wages than us and all smaller gates ..... I very much doubt it

 

[mikeyjh]

Only 1 team demonstrating that in the top 10 I think

Derby? Burnley? Who?

 

[Barrel of Fun]

Forest demonstrating FFP in action again I see.

Darius Henderson, Jamie Mackie, Ishmael Miller, Marcus Tudgay, Jamie Paterson, Dexter Blackstock, Matt Derbyshire and Simon Cox obviously not a sufficient Championship strikeforce for the Scottish Dwarf's liking. #ffsffp

It's the Redknapp school of management. Buy all the strikers to avoid your rivals getting them. Scant regard to the future finances of the club. Pay them enough to keep them all happy.

 

[portslade seagull]

Derby? Burnley? Who?

If our wages are the 8th lowest as supposedly reported I'd hardly think these 1 would be below us

 

[nwgull]

Only 1 team demonstrating that in the top 10 I think

I'd say Burnley and Derby both are; don't know about Middlesborough and Ipswich.

 

[mikeyjh]

If our wages are the 8th lowest as supposedly reported I'd hardly think these 1 would be below us

So is it Derby or Burnley? I'm confused?

 

[portslade seagull]

So is it Derby or Burnley? I'm confused?

Still neither .. Look towards Barnsley, Doncaster, Yeovil, Millwall, Charlton, Ipswich and tbh after that I'm struggling

 

[Pavilionaire]

You wonder whether it's worth Burnley, Derby and us even bothering when stuff like this is going on.

 

[mikeyjh]

You wonder whether it's worth Burnley, Derby and us even bothering when stuff like this is going on.

I think it's swings and roundabouts - We had Lionel Pickering in the 90s letting us spend £££s all over the place, setting the foundation for a relatively successful period. Brighton have a free ground which, while falling outside the scope of FFP, makes it a bit rich for Brighton fans to be pointing the fingers at sugar daddies elsewhere.

 

[Icy Gull]

I think it's swings and roundabouts - We had Lionel Pickering in the 90s letting us spend £££s all over the place, setting the foundation for a relatively successful period. Brighton have a free ground which, while falling outside the scope of FFP, makes it a bit rich for Brighton fans to be pointing the fingers at sugar daddies elsewhere.

The fact that our ground is outside FFP rules whilst trying to keep within the bounds of FFP on the playing front makes a difference though, no?

 

[mikeyjh]

Still neither .. Look towards Barnsley, Doncaster, Yeovil, Millwall, Charlton, Ipswich and tbh after that I'm struggling

Okay, I'll make it easy for you - Derby's last set of accounts demonstrate that we are within the FFP rules, comfortably.

 

[mikeyjh]

The fact that our ground is outside FFP rules whilst trying to keep within the bounds of FFP on the playing front makes a difference though, no?

From an FFP perspective, yes - But it doesn't disguise the fact that Brighton were handed a huge financial advantage by being donated a stadium. I guess the point I'm making is that there's a lot of whingeing about other clubs spending their benefactors money while conveniently ignoring the immeasurable leg up that Brighton got from Tony Bloom.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

From an FFP perspective, yes - But it doesn't disguise the fact that Brighton were handed a huge financial advantage by being donated a stadium. I guess the point I'm making is that there's a lot of whingeing about other clubs spending their benefactors money while conveniently ignoring the immeasurable leg up that Brighton got from Tony Bloom.

We had one chairman who took everything.

We have one chairman who has given it back ( and his loan may still be repaid down the line ).


Karma righting a wrong, no ?

 

[Seagull over Canaryland]

Interesting debate. 'An immeasurable leg up...from Tony Bloom'.

What about the 'immeasurable leg up' that Clubs like Burnley and Derby received with their recent years in the Prem and then parachute payments? These are on top of building Pride Park / iPro. Where would these Clubs be now but for all that Prem money - what would their finances and playing squads look like? The Albion have never enjoyed such hand outs.

Yes there's no denying that Tony has been a fabulous Chairman / owner in creating an infrastructure that means we have finally caught up with our rivals after 15-20 years grubbing around in sub standard facilities. But looking at the big picture we are probably only spending the sort of capital that most other clubs have spent spread over a similar period, except ours has arrived in the last 5 years rather than over 20 years. Derby built Pride Park 15 years ago when we were homeless, and barely surviving from week to week. But as someone else pointed out - capital expenditure is irrelevant under FFP anyway.

However by comparison Tony Bloom has not splashed the cash on the playing squad, yes we broke our modest transfer record a couple of times 2 years ago (and those records had stood for 30 years which shows we don't really splash the cash) but on the whole our transfer strategy has been frugal compared to many clubs and especially Forest etc. Bridcutt may become our record sale but we originally got him on a free transfer which is excellent business. It speaks volumes that Tony Bloom prefers to spend the sort of money Forest have splashed around recently on a new training complex to foster our youth development because this has to be the most cost effective long term approach, especially under FFP.

 

[jamie the seagull]

"Middlesbrough on alert as Sunderland offer Graham for £1m"

http://www.shieldsgazette.com/sport/football/middlesbrough-on-alert-as-sunderland-offer-graham-for-1m-1-6707584

 

[Rod Marsh]

For a million. Yes. On the assumption he fits in our wage structure.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

For a million. Yes. On the assumption he fits in our wage structure.

Which, after a few years on the wage bill of Premier league clubs, probably isn't the case.