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[Flex Your Head]

[MENTION=20045]hybrid_x[/MENTION] are all school gun massacres hoaxes, or just some of them. How can you tell the difference?

 

[hybrid_x]

[MENTION=20045]hybrid_x[/MENTION] are all school gun massacres hoaxes, or just some of them. How can you tell the difference?

occult symbolism......but most in the past 10 years are thro project monarch (de-classified so research away).

 

[hybrid_x]

YES. Very clever anti Semites fill the Internet with disinformation so that gullible suckers (you) will stumble across it and read and absorb their poison. As you "research" you gradually find yourself being subtly told over and over "the Jews are behind it all" you don't realise it but, one day, you find yourself going onto a football forum and hypothesising that the Holocaust is questionable...and by then, it's too late. You're a dickhead.

Oh, and incidentally, the ridiculous comment you made that an Internet site can promote a PROVEN anti Semitic lie like the Protocols as truth can be trusted on other data shows conclusively that you are no longer able to differentiate between reliable information and manipulative wall-eyed nonsense.

Surely if a webmaster posts an outrageous lie that led directly to mass murder of innocent men women and children as a"fact" you should treat ALL of his data with scepticism?

Again, for the fifth time - my research goes to western occultists, not so much the "finance / corporate jews" - but lets entertain you for a while for entertainment.

So - your "theory" is the following.....

Neo-cons and jews are both in poweful positions (granted - ill give you that).

both are working together on many things.

but the neo-cons have a team putting out 50,000 odd movies and articles - (owning the likes of tsarion, rense, wilde etc), plus also thousands of pretend bedroom and hillbilly spawned sites - all about zionism - because the neo-cons are racist.

And fox news (lets not get into the owners) has the official line.


HAHAHA.

So, the jews in power know they are doing this? Of course they would, so why would they continue to work with them?

From my research, the average anti-zionist in power gets shut down pretty quick, so why is this not the case in your theory?

Your "conspiracy theory" is seriously strange......and i can see myself laughing as others laugh at the things i have stated.........a strange position to be in, but humerous none the less.....wow - this is funny - i want to be on the other side of the fence more....hahahaha.

ps.....If a newspaper puts in a clown like mystic meg i can still trust the football scores.....things are not black or white.

pps from your post #213..."jewish kids are encouraged to do as well as they can" - in selfhood, in emotional stability, or in making as much as they can financially in western capitalism? Be careful of using words like "doing well" - it is VERY subjective.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

Does anybody know why the Jews seem to have been such a regular target for abuse or discrimination throughout history? Hitler certainly wasn't the first to persecute them.

Because they were the money lenders quite often. Refer to how people distrust banks and this is the kind of ill will that was attached to the Jews.

Shakespeare portrayed them as such with his character Shylock in the Merchant of Venice.

 

[pastafarian]

Standard how you don't answer any of the info in Dorset's link and instead fall into a media delivered stereotype.....again.

Considering you can read,my response was....

I wouldnt worry about that,the guy in question is a well known conspiracy fruitcake.
Some of his classics are Aliens abduct humans at the ages of 3,6 and 13 for regular checkups
there are secret alien moonbases known about by the CIA
Einstein was a Zionist fraud and hoaxer.
Trees grow on the moon.......yep i havnt a clue about that one either

How on earth is my response "a media delivered stereotype"

Its quite clear i have only stated FACTS as Mr Lear believes them to be....they are his lunatic theories FACT!....if that is stereotypical in your eyes and media fuelled......more fool you

 

[pastafarian]

Because they were the money lenders quite often. Refer to how people distrust banks and this is the kind of ill will that was attached to the Jews.

Shakespeare portrayed them as such with his character Shylock in the Merchant of Venice.

The original question by Edna and a valid one was about the historical aspect of Jewish persecution .........but well done you giving evidence about the Merchant of Venice a 16th century play

Special notice should be given to this

Because they were the money lenders quite often.

I am not sure who is the more ignorant Hybrid or you with your Catholic beliefs and your stereotypical views on Jewish people.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

I am not sure who is the more ignorant Hybrid or you with your Catholic beliefs and your stereotypical views on Jewish people.

Obviously it's you if you think this wasn't a perception held in days past. You understand the concept of perception yes?

If you knew what you were talking about you'd know that a great many occupations were barred to Jews so they were often pressed into an occupation such as money lending because it was one of the few fields of work open to them (along with tax collection).

You'd also know that in Christianity money lending was not looked upon favorably so it was often wealthy Christian Lords who'd use a Jewish money lender to lend out the money charging exorbitant interest. When people defaulted on such loans it was the Jew who was seen as the cold, heartless money lender and not the person that were actually working for in secret.

So yeah, I'm reckoning you're the ignorant one if you don't think this isn't a big part of how the culture of Jew hating was manifested througout European culture rightly or wrongly.

 

[pastafarian]

Obviously it's you if you think this wasn't a perception held in days past. You understand the concept of perception yes?

If you knew what you were talking about you'd know that a great many occupations were barred to Jews so they were often pressed into an occupation such as money lending because it was one of the few fields of work open to them (along with tax collection).

You'd also know that in Christianity money lending was not looked upon favorably so it was often wealthy Christian Lords who'd use a Jewish money lender to lend out the money charging exorbitant interest. When people defaulted on such loans it was the Jew who was seen as the cold, heartless money lender and not the person that were actually working for in secret.

So yeah, I'm reckoning you're the ignorant one if you don't think this isn't a big part of how the culture of Jew hating was manifested througout European culture rightly or wrongly.

Thats spiffing old chap but i think Ednas intelligent question about persecution implied also pre the invention of Christianity and wasnt just reliant on European Culture as quoted by you

still doesnt get away from the fact you said this

Because they were the money lenders quite often.

what a shockingly appalling stereotype that is!

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

Thats spiffing old chap but i think Ednas intelligent question about persecution implied also pre the invention of Christianity and wasnt just reliant on European Culture as quoted by you.

This dates pre Christianity.

But there must also have been doing a thriving money lending business, since as soon as the Jews were exiled to Babylonia we surprisingly encounter at least two full-fledged Jewish banks operating there -- the banking houses of Murashu and Egibi. Many cuneiform tablets evidencing their money lending transactions and bearing Jewish names have been preserved. The "banking" skill of these Jews must have been preceded by generations of experience and tradition.

http://www.manfredlehmann.com/news/news_detail.cgi/173/0

So you see this "perception" has been building for a long time among a great many people throughout history. I thought you'd have been aware of that.

still doesnt get away from the fact you said this

what a shockingly appalling stereotype that is!

Do you not understand how stereotypes begin and then work? If a stereotype exists it means it has been cultured throughout history by others.

The fact you think it's me saying it as a truth and not simply pointing out the sterotype which existed throughout history boggles the mind.

SO no, it is not "my" opinion. It is one that has been recorded a great many times by others in history.

 

[hybrid_x]

I don't see anything wrong with Tyrone's comment....as politically uncorrect and unsavory as it is now, it does hold historical objective truth....


DIODORUS SICULUS. First century Greek historian:
"Usury" is the practice of lending money at excessive interest rates. This has for centuries caused great misery and poverty for Gentiles. It has brought strong condemnation of the Jews!

CICERO (Marcus Tullius Cicero). First century B.C. Roman stateman, writer.
“Softly! Softly! I want none but the judges to hear me. The Jews have already gotten me into a fine mess, as they have many other gentleman. I have no desire to furnish further grist for their mills.” (Oration in Defense of Flaccus)


It's a shame people said these things, or felt compelled to say these things, but they did, so being politically correct and idealistic about it hundreds of years later doesn't change the fact it was said.

 

[Buzzer]

If a newspaper puts in a clown like mystic meg i can still trust the football scores.....things are not black or white.

The newspaper analogy doesn't work in this instance. That website attributes everything it makes reference to as a Zionist plot. It exists for one purpose and it's extremely anti-Semitic. The Protocols - a Zionist plot. Santa Barbara shootings - a Zionist plot. A direct link in the mind of whoever writes that guff and the same agenda. Not the same as the Sun having astrology in one section and football in another.

 

[hybrid_x]

i have only stated FACTS as Mr Lear believes them to be..

binfest pause.

"Oh no wait till he gets hold of this" (referring to me) .....then you said in your first sentence..."the guy in question" ....i presumed you where referring to me and not the content (hence projecting a CT stereotype).

apologies.

binfest play.

 

[hybrid_x]

The newspaper analogy doesn't work in this instance. That website attributes everything it makes reference to as a Zionist plot. It exists for one purpose and it's extremely anti-Semitic. The Protocols - a Zionist plot. Santa Barbara shootings - a Zionist plot. A direct link in the mind of whoever writes that guff and the same agenda. Not the same as the Sun having astrology in one section and football in another.

ok, lets try another analogy, if someone shoots a hundred arrows, one or two will hit the target.

i posted in this thread posts of his that where relelvant to the thread and evidence that really helps highlight the LA hoax.

i know little of his other postings or world view......but the kicker, it's kinda sad, and it's not racist, is that zionism is kinda real......so ant-zionism websites is kind of a natural thing.

(anti zionism is not anti-semetic clearly explained in a previous post).

 

[Buzzer]

I'm aware of the difference. That website is anti-Semitic.

Zionism may be real. The idea that gay Zionists are behind this and it's a hoax designed to precipitate stricter gun laws is pathetic.

 

[hybrid_x]

The idea that gay Zionists are behind this

i never said that in this thread.....maybe you need to re-read some of it.

because a link providing decent evidence regarding the blood, witnesses, lone parent, and timings - leads on to other articles means little - the other articles on that site i care little for. .....drumroll........hence why they weren't posted.

In many strange, dark, and colourful corners of the internet one can sometimes find in the hay the odd small piece to a bigger jigsaw. I prefer this method to believing only that is on bbc/fox/cnn (that are all exactly the same)....but each to their own.

So, why did the corpse get left in the car all night? why is there no blood in the car after he shot himself in the head but there is blood outside the car on the floor (not cleared up till at least 12 hours later). why did the services not turn up until 45 minutes after the event? why was the town "shut down" in a drill / scare three days before? why did only 1parent come out and talk about gun laws and this interview was splashed all over bbc/fox/cnn more than anything else. - These are the questions people don't want to look at.

 

[Buzzer]

Ooh, that's interesting. You've edited out the bit where you originally wrote that you had no idea what that website's world view was. That you weren't aware that they were blaming gay Zionists and that you hadn't looked at any further articles on the website other than the two you already had looked at.

Okay, play it your way and just taking those links you posted and ignoring anything else posted elsewhere on that site. Here's a short section from one of those links, the ones you claim as absolute proof:

...the insane ones, terminally so, are the Khazarian Jews who perpetrate these acts, including the likes of Peter Rodgers and his clique, not the Anglo Saxon people upon whom these hoaxes are heaped.

No wonder you're backtracking at such a quick rate.

 

[edna krabappel]

a great many occupations were barred to Jews so they were often pressed into an occupation such as money lending because it was one of the few fields of work open to them

This suggests a longer standing prejudice against Jews than simply from the point they became known as money lenders then- does anybody know the reason they were barred from other occupations (or is it a case of their own religion prohibiting them for some reason)?

 

[hybrid_x]

That you weren't aware that they were blaming gay Zionists and that you hadn't looked at any further articles on the website other than the two you already had looked at.

i was half-aware (i knew of the article title, and had scanned it in a half second).......hence the edit.....and knew the wording of my reply had to be completely correct - due to a) sensitive subject and b) it would get jumped on (as you did).

Even if he was the most rascist mass murderer rapist in the world, the posts i have included on this thread from his site are relevant to the subject of the thread, and for me, raise massive questions over the official theatre that got pumped out on masse by the MSM.

Stating he has issues doesn't change that fact, nor would it if he wrote about cindarella eating people.

For the 7th or 8th time in this thread i will say this is a hollywood occultist gig - not "only Khazarian Jews" as you keep trying to pin on me.....your dart is blunt - but keep throwing and wasting your darts.

 

[Buzzer]

For the 7th or 8th time in this thread i will say this is a hollywood occultist gig - not "only Khazarian Jews" as you keep trying to pin on me.....your dart is blunt - but keep throwing and wasting your darts.

'Not only Khazarian Jews' eh? so you think, as with this website, that they are involved. You also tell us you have serious questions about the 'official' story of the Holocaust and you place great faith in an anti-Semitic website that thinks that the father of one of the 'fake' victims (Christopher Martinez) is a Zionist actor because he looks a bit Jewish.

And you tell us you have serious questions about the truth as told in the news worldwide but happy to hold great store by a website that blames Jews for playing hoaxes on Anglo-Saxons.

 

[Flex Your Head]

that almost enters into your top10 of intelligent comment on a subject within a thread.....but comes in at 14.

So, the ONE parent who came out and spoke (in the first few seconds about gun laws)......have you researched him?

http://nodisinfo.com/richard-martinez/

explain this away please? or are you happy clinging onto the MSM story of events that is a complete fairy tale?

Are you serious or on a gianty fishing trip?

Did you even read the offensive bullshit you linked to?

Santa Monica Hoax Ringleader Richard Martinez is a Zionist Jew.

The filthy Zionist cabalist Richard Martinez, he is masquerading as if he is a Spanish-Mexican-origin father for his falsely murdered son, and it is not the case. It is all a lie. The son was not murdered – if it is really his son. Plus, he is not merely of Spanish origin. Rather, he is a Sayanim agent, a Sephardic Jew.

Who else would the Zionists selected for their key agent; surely, they wouldn’t do so for such a crucial role with a goy or Muslim.

This Jewishness is clearly evident through his intensive dramatics: his behavior, speech, and antics. It is also evident in the nature of the plot that he is orchestrating, the Santa Barbara hoax-based gun confiscation plot – which is scam perpetrated by world Jewry.
...
That venom can be realized to such a degree that it is oozing from his treacherous mouth. Does anyone need more proof of his nature as a Zionist mole than the above image? He is clearly and categorically working on behalf of Mahyudi monsters as an embedded member of the tribe.Or, from his vile eyes can the Zionist nature be seen. Yet, despite his posturing otherwise nothing oozes from them. They are as dry as a bone:

He is clearly and categorically working on behalf of Mahyudi monsters as an embedded member of the tribe because of his facial features in a photograph? Well, that's me convinced.

Also, you point to the fact that he is the lone parent to have spoken out as evidence of a Zionist-sponsored hoax, but surely it would be far more convincing and damning if all of the parents spoke out against US gun law? No?

Seriously, can you not see how patently ludicrous this shit is?