Froch vs Groves Sky 'Gloves are off' special this Sat

[Albion Dan]

38 mins.44 seconds.

Very concerning.

As I said Froch is having to muster every ounce of energy appearing to keep it together. Underneath he's lost it again mentally imo.

 

[The Wizard]

Froch will win. Groves used his plucky underdog role last time to shock Froch but this time people will be expecting the same (see this thread), as much as I like Groves, Froch is a much better fighter than him at his best, Froch by TKO.

I still won't be paying £17 to watch it, mind.

 

[big nuts]

By almost universal consensus that was an outrageous set of scorecards. Groves was easily up by 6 in reality. And for those saying Groves was close to going down that is nothing more than conjecture that can NEVER be proven one way or the other. Also defending Foster is completely unacceptable, at the very worst he should have given Groves a standing 8 count.

There is no standing 8 count in professional boxing.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

So is the full English wager back on after your man Fury got lucky the last time?

Groves inside the first 6 rounds, Froch is at the end of his career, on a big payday and despite apparently the verbal victory on Sky this week I still think Groves has got in his head.

Froch may be towards the end of his career, but don't reckon George Groves has either the physical or mental capacity to overcome him. Just looks like Man v. Boy.

 

[Ernest]

I may be stupid but I've got a feeling Froch will end this one more decisively and quicker this time, maybe inside the first 6 rounds with a clear cut KO or a stoppage nobody disputes.

The only worrying thing this time is that a referee maybe hesitant to step in if one of the fighters is getting a beating due to what happened last time.

 

[Triggaaar]

It's a great undercard, I guess any boxing fan will be watching those bouts as well.

Sure they're watch, but would they really want to pay for those, or is that the sort of thing they'd expect to see with their usual Sky subscription?

If you don't like it then don't watch

I'd watch if it wasn't PPV. And I don't see what's wrong with moaning about PPV. It's bad for the sport and bad for fans. It's only good for rich promoters, broadcasters and boxers.

 

[Horton hears a few]

Not me. And 3 hours? You're being generous. A boxing match is typically less than half an hour, and it's not like you'd pay for the commentary.

If no one in this country paid for this shit, guess what - it would be free (with basic sports subscription)!

And 'Gloves are off' do me a favour. Do people really fall for this shit? 'They really hate each other, I wanna see them fight'. Every boxing match build is the same old bollocks, grudge match bullshit.

The undercard looks pretty good to be fair.

 

[Horton hears a few]

Groves has now signed with Sauerland promotions so lining up fights with Kessler and Abrahams

Both of which are now very beatable

 

[Lenny Rider]

Groves has now signed with Sauerland promotions so lining up fights with Kessler and Abrahams

I wonder if Groves does well with them and earns a few quid will any of our other top domestic fighters turns their backs on Messrs Hearn and Warren?

 

[Horton hears a few]

There's something about Groves that drives Froch mad. I can't work out what it is and I'm also not sure if this is good or bad news for Groves. It certainly shows Froch in a bad light though and his usual articulate and measured manner has been blown out of the water with these 2 fights.

When the rematch was first announced I thought Groves would win a comfortable points decision but as the fight has got closer I find myself questioning Groves stamina. Froch got caught early in the first fight which made Groves tactics of beating Froch to the punch easier as Froch lost his zip from the knockdown. However Froch still wore him down and although the fight was stopped too early Froch was getting to him and Groves was starting to unravel.

If the beating that Froch took in the last fight hasn't put too many miles on the clock I think Froch can wear him down and stop him around 8 or 9. If Froch is on the slide I think Groves can win.

 

[Ernest]

I wonder if Groves does well with them and earns a few quid will any of our other top domestic fighters turns their backs on Messrs Hearn and Warren?

David Price already signed up and heading a big show in Liverpool soon

 

[Horton hears a few]

David Price already signed up and heading a big show in Liverpool soon

He's quite likely to get knocked out then

 

[LlcoolJ]

Provided Froch performs from the first round he will smash Groves. As others have said, that first round shot took him most of the rest of the fight to get over, and yet he still did get over it and right back into the fight.

Ridiculous stoppage indeed but I'm convinced he'd have gone on to win it anyway.

Lightning does strike twice occasionally but that's what Groves needs or he's stuffed.

 

[Lenny Rider]

Two factors that seem to be overlooked by a number of people is that Groves is without doubt a world class fighter now and that 11 year age gap could make all the difference on fight night. Boxing history is littered with fighters who had one fight too many, could Carl Froch be our answer to Larry Holmes?

 

[Ernest]

Two factors that seem to be overlooked by a number of people is that Groves is without doubt a world class fighter now and that 11 year age gap could make all the difference on fight night. Boxing history is littered with fighters who had one fight too many, could Carl Froch be our answer to Larry Holmes?

What about Bernard Hopkins ? Still going strong at 50. The best fights are the ones that you can put up a case for either boxer and it is a true 50/50 match, I go with Froch but wouldn't be surprised to see him dumped on his backside at some stage.

I wouldn't be surprised if Degale came a cropper too in his fight, seems a decent opponent and Degale is not progressing now

 

[Weststander]

[SUP][/SUP]

Two factors that seem to be overlooked by a number of people is that Groves is without doubt a world class fighter now and that 11 year age gap could make all the difference on fight night. Boxing history is littered with fighters who had one fight too many, could Carl Froch be our answer to Larry Holmes?

I agree. Age at nearly 37 is the main negative for Froch. Is he on the wain now?

But he was a late bloomer, and now that he knows how Groves tackles him, perhaps Froch and his team will be this team be incredibly well prepared in video analysis of chinks in Groves 'armour'?

 

[Lenny Rider]

[SUP][/SUP]

I agree. Age at nearly 37 is the main negative for Froch. Is he on the wain now?

But he was a late bloomer, and now that he knows how Groves tackles him, perhaps Froch and his team will be this team be incredibly well prepared in video analysis of chinks in Groves 'armour'?

Looking again at the you tube stuff posted on here, Groves has got to him mentally, so in the ring if he's inside his head as well as being in better physical condition, that could be the difference.

So returning to the thread title can't wait for Sat night to see what was said in this TV prog.

 

[Mr Banana]

Ridiculous stoppage indeed but I'm convinced he'd have gone on to win it anyway.

Lightning does strike twice occasionally but that's what Groves needs or he's stuffed.

What convinces you, if you really analyse it? Froch was back in it, but the barrage he was landing had no accuracy. Groves was defending himself and getting shots in. Look at GG's reaction at the stoppage. You could argue Froch might have won that round if it had gone on.

It's less like lightning striking again, more like a form guide.

 

[Withdean11]

What convinces you, if you really analyse it? Froch was back in it, but the barrage he was landing had no accuracy. Groves was defending himself and getting shots in. Look at GG's reaction at the stoppage. You could argue Froch might have won that round if it had gone on.

It's less like lightning striking again, more like a form guide.

Had Howard Foster not stepped in, I highly doubt George would of finished the round. Froch was landing cleanly, Groves was in big trouble. Look at the way he falls into Howard, arms by his side, head down. Had it gone on an extra 10 seconds everyone would be saying what a great comeback performance from Froch that was.

 

[Mr Banana]

Had Howard Foster not stepped in, I highly doubt George would of finished the round. Froch was landing cleanly, Groves was in big trouble. Look at the way he falls into Howard, arms by his side, head down. Had it gone on an extra 10 seconds everyone would be saying what a great comeback performance from Froch that was.

Foster accidentally grabbed him. He could and should have given a standing eight. Even if GG was about to get sparked - in the exchange you're talking about, Froch landed two clean shots, GG replied with one in between - he wasn't in worse trouble than Carl had been. It was inconsistent.