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Possible bad news for a B777 [Malaysian MH370]



Leighgull

New member
Dec 27, 2012
2,377
The oddest thing (other than the complete disappearance of an entire jumbo jet) is reports from air traffic that the pilot was broadcasting loud and clear then all they heard was static and a load of "mumbling". Perhaps OG hijacked them?
 




Leighgull

New member
Dec 27, 2012
2,377
What if terrorists landed them gently in the sea, and then kept everyone on board as the plane gently sank?

If they managed to land "gently" in mid ocean at 200 miles per hour without breaking up the aircraft then that would be a miracle. Also...why bother? If you're a terrorist you want to be noticed a peaceful sinking hardly seems to be their style.
 


Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
50,281
Goldstone
If they managed to land "gently" in mid ocean at 200 miles per hour without breaking up the aircraft then that would be a miracle.
Did they do something like that in the Hudson? I appreciate the Hudson was a calm river, rather than an ocean, so it's not the same, but presumably the ocean can be calm sometimes?

Also...why bother? If you're a terrorist you want to be noticed a peaceful sinking hardly seems to be their style.
I know. I think it's more likely than the plane being taken by aliens though. Maybe not by much, but slightly.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Did they do something like that in the Hudson? I appreciate the Hudson was a calm river, rather than an ocean, so it's not the same, but presumably the ocean can be calm sometimes?

The plane had only just taken off and was just three miles out, so therefore not very high. The river did tear holes in the fuselage even then but as the emergency services were already alerted, there was enough time to get the passengers and crew off.
 








Guy Fawkes

The voice of treason
Sep 29, 2007
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Dec 29, 2011
8,037
If it was hijacked or all the power went out etc wouldn't there have been at least one call from someone onboard to a family member? I'm not sure if the phones would have worked on this particular plane but there were a lot of calls from the planes involved in 9/11.
 


If it was hijacked or all the power went out etc wouldn't there have been at least one call from someone onboard to a family member? I'm not sure if the phones would have worked on this particular plane but there were a lot of calls from the planes involved in 9/11.

These planes were over the USA and at low altitude. You are never going to get a cell signal above about 10,000 feet and even then you would have to be above a mast. If it was over the sea then impossible for a signal. If over land, then unlikely as just a guess, but I suspect cell coverage in Malaysia or Vietnam is somewhat less than downtown NYC.
 




Dec 29, 2011
8,037
These planes were over the USA and at low altitude. You are never going to get a cell signal above about 10,000 feet and even then you would have to be above a mast. If it was over the sea then impossible for a signal. If over land, then unlikely as just a guess, but I suspect cell coverage in Malaysia or Vietnam is somewhat less than downtown NYC.

Good explanation, I wasn't sure of the logistics of it all. I'm still surprised people on 9/11 managed to phone home.
 


Driver8

On the road...
NSC Patron
Jul 31, 2005
16,026
North Wales
These planes were over the USA and at low altitude. You are never going to get a cell signal above about 10,000 feet and even then you would have to be above a mast. If it was over the sea then impossible for a signal. If over land, then unlikely as just a guess, but I suspect cell coverage in Malaysia or Vietnam is somewhat less than downtown NYC.

On my last flight over the Atlantic you could use your phone all the way across once the seat belt signs were off. Not too many masts out there.
 


Gregory2Smith1

J'les aurai!
Sep 21, 2011
5,476
Auch
the fella on sky news this morning came up with this theory, a catastrophic de compression,coinsiding with the oxeygen system failuring, just as they switched from malaysian to vietnamese airspace

the crew reacted initionally,but passed out,leaving the stricken plane with 3000 miles worth of fuel on board to carry on flying on autopilot towards the Indian ocean,thus becoming a needle in a haystack
 




Dorset Seagull

Once Dolphin, Now Seagull
the fella on sky news this morning came up with this theory, a catastrophic de compression,coinsiding with the oxeygen system failuring, just as they switched from malaysian to vietnamese airspace

the crew reacted initionally,but passed out,leaving the stricken plane with 3000 miles worth of fuel on board to carry on flying on autopilot towards the Indian ocean,thus becoming a needle in a haystack
Even in these circumstances surely if the crew reacted then at least one crew member would have been tasked with some sort of mayday call that would have got through
 


hybrid_x

Banned
Jun 28, 2011
2,225
the fella on sky news this morning came up with this theory, a catastrophic de compression,coinsiding with the oxeygen system failuring, just as they switched from malaysian to vietnamese airspace

the crew reacted initionally,but passed out,leaving the stricken plane with 3000 miles worth of fuel on board to carry on flying on autopilot towards the Indian ocean,thus becoming a needle in a haystack


impossible as the black box always sends out a beacon of where it is.....plus the cockpit dudes would have said something like "arrrghh can't breath mayday" on the comms / black box.

As the facts i posted above suggest, it's either a) a cover up b) it truly vanished.
 




vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
27,939
impossible as the black box always sends out a beacon of where it is.....plus the cockpit dudes would have said something like "arrrghh can't breath mayday" on the comms / black box.

As the facts i posted above suggest, it's either a) a cover up b) it truly vanished.

a, Bollocks, b, It will be found eventually.
 






Gregory2Smith1

J'les aurai!
Sep 21, 2011
5,476
Auch
impossible as the black box always sends out a beacon of where it is.....plus the cockpit dudes would have said something like "arrrghh can't breath mayday" on the comms / black box.

As the facts i posted above suggest, it's either a) a cover up b) it truly vanished.

yeah,but didn't it take two years to find the french plane and they had a pretty good idea where it was in the first place
 


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