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Impending Tube Strike and Our Champagne Socialist.......



Beach Hut

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 5, 2003
72,034
Living In a Box
Oh they will...for the European elections only, to make the politicians realise that the people of this country are fed up with being ruled by an unelected foreign body...we fought two world wars to avoid the continent have dominance over our elected parliament..now the left...yes, you want to give it all away...your so into Labour...tell me...how did they do last time...(apart from taking us into an illegal war and bankrupting the country),...

Careful, blinding truthful facts can cause amnesia with lefties
 






lawros left foot

Glory hunting since 1969
Jun 11, 2011
13,769
Worthing
Perhaps if Thatchers government hadnt sold off a huge amount of our social housing stock, of which a large amount is now in the hands of private landlords, making obscene profits, we could all live in council houses. And btw I dont think Bob Crowe is a member of the Labour party, not radical enough for him.
 




beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,399
What someone really needs to do is invent a talking device which enables two people in different places to communicate. You could call it something like, er, a tele-phone? I reckon it would catch on.

that would be a marvellous idea, but wouldnt help those that insist upon face to face power meetings, where they can be seen walking out of the other parties office to claim how they've won substantial concessions for their members. if politics were all conducted by phone i reckon we'd get an awful lot more done, but one has to be seen rather than necessarily do.
 




Herr Tubthumper

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
60,047
The Fatherland
Oh they will...for the European elections only, to make the politicians realise that the people of this country are fed up with being ruled by an unelected foreign body...we fought two world wars to avoid the continent have dominance over our elected parliament..now the left...yes, you want to give it all away...your'e so into Labour...tell me...how did they do last time...(apart from taking us into an illegal war and bankrupting the country),...

Bankrupting the country? Care to take a look at current government borrowing levels? They've gone up since Cameron came in. Triple A rating gone. Unemployment higher. I know what I'd rather have. And I know what the UK will get come 2015.
 


clapham_gull

Legacy Fan
Aug 20, 2003
25,485
Interestingly, most commuters in London actually agree with what the tube strike is over - closure of ticket offices.

Most won't connect the two.

Probably worth reminding anyone who can't buy a ticket/charge an Oyster because the machine is broken or the one available has a queue leading out into the street.

And yes, it happens all the time. The Underground ones are quite robust but the station ones with dual Oyster facilty can be tempremental in my opinion.

That's important if you start your journey at a rail station.
 


lawros left foot

Glory hunting since 1969
Jun 11, 2011
13,769
Worthing
When Bob Crowe was on the Jeremy Vine show, Vine started to have a go at him about his wage, so Crowe turned it round and asked Vine how much he earned, of public money for his two hour a day show. Funnily enough, Vine changed the subject pretty rapid, and I would imagine the Mail editor is on a far larger salary than Bob Crowe, and he doesnt have the face a leadership ballot either
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
60,047
The Fatherland
Careful, blinding truthful facts can cause amnesia with lefties

Don't worry. Whatever happens I will never forget your free-travel self-centered hypocrisy.
 


Beach Hut

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 5, 2003
72,034
Living In a Box
Don't worry. Whatever happens I will never forget your free-travel self-centered hypocrisy.

Nice, another little personal insult

Is this what Champagne Socialists are taught from the handbook of life.
 


Herr Tubthumper

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
60,047
The Fatherland
Nice, another little personal insult

Is this what Champagne Socialists are taught from the handbook of life.

That's a bit rich given YOU started this thread with a direct insult to me. Anyway, it's past midnight in the Fatherland so I'm going to bed. Guten nacht.
 




Beach Hut

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 5, 2003
72,034
Living In a Box
That's a bit rich given YOU started this thread with a direct insult to me. Anyway, it's past midnight in the Fatherland so I'm going to bed. Guten nacht.

It was no different from your soliciting votes for me in the 1901 about some stupid cock-juggling sh1te.

Still alls well in love and war and I can take the joke.
 


Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,178
The arse end of Hangleton
Bankrupting the country? Care to take a look at current government borrowing levels? They've gone up since Cameron came in. Triple A rating gone. Unemployment higher. I know what I'd rather have. And I know what the UK will get come 2015.

It's been a while since I did my maths O level but Labour left government with unemployment at around 8.1% and the current level is around 7.2% - how is 7.2 higher than 8.1 ?
 


pastafarian

Well-known member
Sep 4, 2011
11,902
Sussex
When Bob Crowe was on the Jeremy Vine show, Vine started to have a go at him about his wage, so Crowe turned it round and asked Vine how much he earned, of public money for his two hour a day show. Funnily enough, Vine changed the subject pretty rapid, and I would imagine the Mail editor is on a far larger salary than Bob Crowe, and he doesnt have the face a leadership ballot either


ooohhh! that would be a binfestorama.
Can you imagine if the editor of the Daily Mail lived in a council house.
 




Beach Hut

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 5, 2003
72,034
Living In a Box
It's been a while since I did my maths O level but Labour left government with unemployment at around 8.1% and the current level is around 7.2% - how is 7.2 higher than 8.1 ?

Another blinding fact the lefties will struggle with.
 


Seagull on the wing

New member
Sep 22, 2010
7,458
Hailsham
Bankrupting the country? Care to take a look at current government borrowing levels? They've gone up since Cameron came in. Triple A rating gone. Unemployment higher. I know what I'd rather have. And I know what the UK will get come 2015.
They did bankrupt us...sold our gold reserves at the cheapest rate it has ever been...left a note..'There's no money left'..yes real funny..Triple A went because of their policies...don't know where you got your info from as regards unemployment...according to all sauces...althought that numbskull Ed Balls won't admit it...unemployment is falling faster than it has done for 30 years...the economy is the fastest rising in the whole of Europe...including Germany...and most of the world...despite this government being lumbered with the millstone of Clegg and his cronies. The trouble with Labour they never learn..Balls is talking about going back to the policies of Tax,Borrow ,and Spend
...the very policies that put us in this mess in the first place. If Socialism is so good...why is France going down the pan at an alarming rate,unemployment rising...lost their AAA, AA ratings...you are welcome to your Labour government...but one day when you get this 'Labour is for the working man' out of your mind you might wake up to the fact...they are all in it for themselves...
 


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,399
Interestingly, most commuters in London actually agree with what the tube strike is over - closure of ticket offices.

my experience of ticket office staff in the past few years is that the machines are marginally more communicative and certainly less sour and grumpy. didnt used to be like that, i can imagine its become a refuge for those that dont want to engage with the public. because thats whats being proposed iirc, staff not hiding in a booth but on the platform assisting.

yes, i know some are losing their job. thats the cost of progress, technology has made their job of issueing tickets redundant. is there really justification for 3 staff in the ticket office at Sudbury Town on weekady afternoon?
 


clapham_gull

Legacy Fan
Aug 20, 2003
25,485
my experience of ticket office staff in the past few years is that the machines are marginally more communicative and certainly less sour and grumpy. didnt used to be like that, i can imagine its become a refuge for those that dont want to engage with the public. because thats whats being proposed iirc, staff not hiding in a booth but on the platform assisting.

yes, i know some are losing their job. thats the cost of progress, technology has made their job of issueing tickets redundant. is there really justification for 3 staff in the ticket office at Sudbury Town on weekady afternoon?

My experience is completely the opposite. I find if you treat them as human beings they react accordingly. If you find machines communicative perhaps your approach is failing ?

The station staff at my station are busy because the ticket machines are rubbish.
 




pastafarian

Well-known member
Sep 4, 2011
11,902
Sussex
Seems to be various levels of hypocrisy going on here.

Who really gives a toss where the bloke goes on holiday?Its his money he can do what the bugger he likes with it.

As for the council house issue i think its only fair to say its quite questionable to ask if someone "needs" council housing on that salary.Surely buying the property (if that is an option) would release funds into the council coffers for more housing building and he gets to stay where he wants,or option 2 buy something local.

i suspect if it were a Tory councilor on £150000 a year who was living in a council house there would be some people on here having absolute kittens.

The problem with Bob Crowe is that he comes across to many people as a hardcore left wing firebrand along the same ilk as that ginger bloke ,Unions do great work,but the lunatics spoil it.

The irony is that at this time its not the Tories trying to diminish their power but Mr Milliband himself........labour(the tory B team) are a joke,in order for the system to work we need strong opposition ,something we no longer have.
Its now either Lib,Tory or Tory light
 


The Spanish

Well-known member
Aug 12, 2008
6,477
P
And therein lies the issue - all council tenancies should be on flexible tenancies to account for change of circumstances not secured tenancies.

creating unsettled transient communities and the social problems that brings. we already have the private rental sector catering for that quite well.
 


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