Even Poyet thinks we sold Bridcutt too cheap

[Finchley Seagull]

I think it's you that's somewhat deluded. You are completely missing the point. Of course he wasn't going to say he was ripped off, that stands to reason. However given that Poyet knows what they paid the very fact that he used the word 'bargain' suggests that they paid below there own valuation of the player.

If I went to buy a new car and paid the full asking price I wouldn't walk away saying to myself what I bargain I've just had. However, if I'd paid significantly under the odds I'd recognise that as a bargain.

The point is he did make reference to the measly sum they have just paid for arguably our best player. The very fact that he's talking of starting him against Newcastle shows you what high regard he holds him in. Sunderland would have paid more, not necessarily in this window, but they'd have been back.

And don't give me all that pony about then having a disgruntled player on our hands and a lack of harmony in the dressing room.

Sorry, read my post on the other transfer window thread, I'm not deluded. We've weakened our squad this transfer window but it's not due to the sale of Bridcutt. If you seriously think we're better off with a player who's not been mentally able to play the last couple of games, then I stand by the comment that you're stupid.

Poyet plays mind games. We fell out with him and had issues with him over the summer. If you don't see why he'd say it was a bargain to the press, then you genuinely aren't worth arguing with. It's pretty obvious.

Put simply, we've had a bad transfer window but it's not down to what we got for Bridcutt, it's because we didn't spend that money.

 

[poidy]

Sorry, read my post on the other transfer window thread, I'm not deluded. We've weakened our squad this transfer window but it's not due to the sale of Bridcutt. If you seriously think we're better off with a player who's not been mentally able to play the last couple of games, then I stand by the comment that you're stupid.

Poyet plays mind games. We fell out with him and had issues with him over the summer. If you don't see why he'd say it was a bargain to the press, then you genuinely aren't worth arguing with. It's pretty obvious.

Put simply, we've had a bad transfer window but it's not down to what we got for Bridcutt, it's because we didn't spend that money.

Your naivety is frankly staggering.

Are you one of these moronic folk who analyse every journalistic quote for double entendre and evidence of mind games?

Is it inconceivable that he genuinely feels he got Bridcutt on the cheap or in your world does there have to be an ulterior motive for everything?

If the fee of around 3 million is correct then the bottom line is we sold him too cheap. If you disagree with this then I would also have serious reservations about your ability to identify both genuine footballing talent and player potential.

 

[algie]

3 million for a championship midfielder who is 24 isn't cheap. It's a good deal. Especially as Bridcutt wanted out by handing in a transfer request and refusing to play. Normally in these situations players do end up leaving on the cheap but not here. Well done BHA

 

[Finchley Seagull]

Your naivety is frankly staggering.

Are you one of these moronic folk who analyse every journalistic quote for double entendre and evidence of mind games?

Is it inconceivable that he genuinely feels he got Bridcutt on the cheap or in your world does there have to be an ulterior motive for everything?

If the fee of around 3 million is correct then the bottom line is we sold him too cheap. If you disagree with this then I would also have serious reservations about your ability to identify both genuine footballing talent and player potential.

We're going to have to disagree on this one. He's a defensive midfielder (they go for less money on average) who wanted to leave the club and move to Sunderland. Out of interest, what would you have done? Made him stay and forced him to play for us when unhappy?

In terms of getting him cheap, I would have agreed with you at the start of the season but we have to be realistic. As I've said elsewhere, I'm pissed off at the club's lack of ambition in not spending the money in this transfer window but they got a decent deal for Bridcutt if it is the £3 million suggested.

In terms of being one of those "moronic folk", did you support the club when Poyet was manager? He liked to be in the press so I don't necessarily believe every word he says to them (unlike you who thinks everything he says to them is genuine apparently).

 

[HastingsSeagull]

this whole 2.5 / 3.25 business is just 2.5M now and 750k in installments plus then another possible 750k (to make 4M quoted) IF certain things happen isn't it? I was told 500k of that last bit is if they stay up this season and 250k if they do next season (nothing to do with appearances for club and country by the player).

Thus we don't need to cheer on our popular player :/ but do need to cheer on Sunderland :/ if we want some extra loots

 

[poidy]

3 million for a championship midfielder who is 24 isn't cheap. It's a good deal

No it isn't

Zaha was a championship player when he went to United. Whilst a do appreciate he is a few years younger and plays in a different position, the point is if you are considered good enough, where you currently ply your trade is irrelevant.

I stand by the fact that 3 million was not enough. I might even go as far to say a bargain

 

[Finchley Seagull]

No it isn't

Zaha was a championship player when he went to United. Whilst a do appreciate he is a few years younger and plays in a different position, the point is if you are considered good enough, where you currently ply your trade is irrelevant.

I stand by the fact that 3 million was not enough. I might even go as far to say a bargain

Sorry, you're seriously comparing an attacking midfielder who is interesting Manchester United with a defensive midfielder being chased by Sunderland. Your argument lost all it's merit in that post.

 

[mickybha]

Hey our club just got 3m for one of its assets 3 million!!! now thats a very large chunk towards avoiding the looming crippling effects of FFP ..in the bigger picture great business in TB i trust UTA

 

[Garry Nelson's Left Foot]

There's clearly two sides to this.

IF we sold him for 3.25million going up to 4/just over 4million, then for a player that wanted out and only had one suitor we got a solid deal.

For Poyet it's a good deal too. He's got the player that he needs most in his team for what by premier league standards is pretty cheap. So, he's well within his rights to call it a bargain. If the price actually was 2.5million then it's a definite bargain for Poyet.

 

[m20gull]

He was hardly going to say he had paid too much.

 

[hampshirebrightonboy]

He was hardly going to say he had paid too much.

No but then he didn't have to mention the price at all. Most managers don't when introducing a new player. He was doing it to have a go at us, which is pretty disrespectful as far as I am concerned.

 

[Fran Hagarty]

Poyet is a media junky who will use it to maximum effect in his favour. If in the process he can twist the knife on old enemy's all the better.

Too right. He did well for us but my opinion of him has now plummeted to new depths.

 

[Cadiz Seagull]

If I went to buy a new car and paid the full asking price I wouldn't walk away saying to myself what I bargain I've just had. However, if I'd paid significantly under the odds I'd recognise that as a bargain.

This is getting boring now.

When Poyet said that he thought he'd got a bargain, he WASN'T talking to himself. He was talking to the local paper.

Don't you think there might - just might - be a possibility that he was saying what he thought the paper and the fans might like to hear?

We have absolutely no idea if Poyet personally thinks Bridcutt was sold too cheaply or way over the odds.

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

Too right. He did well for us but my opinion of him has now plummeted to new depths.

Too right indeed. I hope if ever he comes for Buckley or Ulloa we tell him we now have no faith in his bid price and that he's taking the piss.

 

[B.W.]

Poyet in big-mouthed dig at former club (which he was rightfully sacked from for gross misconduct); what a massive shock! The thread title makes me smile "Even Poyet thinks..."; why the "Even"? It should be "Inevitably Poyet SAYS..."! As others have said, my respect for Gus has hit a new low, and that is saying something. The man has no class whatsoever.

 

[poidy]

Sorry, you're seriously comparing an attacking midfielder who is interesting Manchester United with a defensive midfielder being chased by Sunderland. Your argument lost all it's merit in that post.

Did you not take on board one word of what I said? You really are a moron of simple intelligence. I clearly pointed out the fact that they play in completely different positions. My post was not a Zaha/Bridcutt comparison.

It was an example serving to highlight that if you are deemed good enough, clubs will pay a premium, irrespective of what division you currently play in.

 

[Weststander]

He was sold for either £2.5m to £3m - they are the figures stated on quality journalistic websites that check their sources such as the Independent, Guardian, Telegraph. The only people who say it was higher are some Albion fans on here who say they 'know' through sources it was much higher, but these contributors are desperate to justify the sale.

Of we had got a straight £5m or £6m, no one on nsc would have said Sunderland were ripped off. That would have sounded about right. About half or a bit lower than Zaha in the more glamorous position of a forward. Bridcutt was a very well known player amongst football journalists and ex players working for the media - over the last few days his talents have been highly praised on 5live, Talksport by an array of such folk, who in talking about his role and style of play clearly knew who they were talking about.

 

[Weststander]

Did you not take on board one word of what I said? You really are a moron of simple intelligence. I clearly pointed out the fact that they play in completely different positions. My post was not a Zaha/Bridcutt comparison.

It was an example serving to highlight that if you are deemed good enough, clubs will pay a premium, irrespective of what division you currently play in.

Your point was easily understood and a sound analogy. Strange how some cannot comprehend that.

 

[HAILSHAM SEAGULL]

He was sold for either £2.5m to £3m - they are the figures stated on quality journalistic websites that check their sources such as the Independent, Guardian, Telegraph. The only people who say it was higher are some Albion fans on here who say they 'know' through sources it was much higher, but these contributors are desperate to justify the sale.

Of we had got a straight £5m or £6m, no one on nsc would have said Sunderland were ripped off. That would have sounded about right. About half or a bit lower than Zaha in the more glamorous position of a forward. Bridcutt was a very well known player amongst football journalists and ex players working for the media - over the last few days his talents have been highly praised on 5live, Talksport by an array of such folk, who in talking about his role and style of play clearly knew who they were talking about.

So how come only one Premier League club wanted to buy him?

 

[poidy]

Your point was easily understood and a sound analogy. Strange how some cannot comprehend that.

Thank you

Sense at last restored