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Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
50,252
Goldstone
Those DJ's have blood on their hands.
No they don't. It was such a little prank, that really caused no harm. If she's committed suicide because of that, she could just as easily done so following an argument at a bus stop. Even Prince Charles joked about the prank on tv yesterday.
 


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,399
No they don't. It was such a little prank, that really caused no harm.

the evidence would suggest otherwise. i doubt it was this matter on it own, but clearly it was an important factor in someone feeling they couldnt continue life anymore. as point out before at a minimum you could expect this prank to result in a disciplinary action for breaching patient confidentiallity. the DJs are at fault.
 


Gregory2Smith1

J'les aurai!
Sep 21, 2011
5,476
Auch
No they don't. It was such a little prank, that really caused no harm. If she's committed suicide because of that, she could just as easily done so following an argument at a bus stop. Even Prince Charles joked about the prank on tv yesterday.

Triggaaar

I really enjoy reading your posts,clear thinking and accurate

but I think Mustafa is right on this occasion

A little prank to us but not to her

If she hadn't taken that call,she'd still be alive
 




Robot Chicken

Seriously?
Jul 5, 2003
13,154
Chicken World
The nurse that killed herself was just the one that transferred the call to the second nurse. It was this second nurse that gave out the confidential information but we haven't heard about this nurse.
 


Kumquat

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Mar 2, 2009
4,459
It's no wonder we are always being asked to donate blood. Most of It's usually on other peoples hands according to the media and several drama queens on here.
 


Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
50,252
Goldstone
the evidence would suggest otherwise. i doubt it was this matter on it own, but clearly it was an important factor in someone feeling they couldnt continue life anymore.
So now no one in the world should ever say anything cheeky or rude to anyone ever, in case it's the straw that breaks the camels back? Bollox.

as point out before at a minimum you could expect this prank to result in a disciplinary action for breaching patient confidentiallity.
You are completely wrong, the minimum you could expect is that hospital procedures are looked at. In fact, I don't think this nurse passed on any confidential information, she simply put the call through to the ward.

The staff shouldn't have passed on the information, so one of two things is wrong within the hospital:
Either the staff had been trained how to check the identity of family members, and the staff failed - in which case they could get, and deserve some discipline.
Or the hospital hadn't prepared staff for checking the identity of callers.

I suspect the latter is the case. I've often called the hospital to check the health of family members, and they've never done anything to check I'm who I say I am - simply, who's calling. They don't generally expect people to be lying. With someone from the royal family staying, you'd think the hospital would have a policy for how they get contacted, as there's a fair chance of journalists trying to get some information for a story. The way this call went, I suspect their policies aren't up to scratch.
 




jonny.rainbow

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Oct 29, 2005
6,647
What a senseless waste. It truly is time to abolish the monarchy, one of the last remenants of the superstitious age which hinders humankind.
 


Del Fenner

Because of Boxing Day
Sep 5, 2011
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An Away Terrace
Has anyone actually heard the prank call ??? It was completely harmless. All it was was the two being put through and the nurse telling us pretty much what we knew. It was so light hearted and did NOT really intrude on Kate's privacy.
Not if confidential medical information was obtained by deception. That would be a criminal offence.
 


Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
50,252
Goldstone
I really enjoy reading your posts,clear thinking and accurate
Eh? I'm not sure I've ever had to deal with a compliment before. Thanks (not sure if that's the appropriate thing to say in such circumstances).

but I think Mustafa is right on this occasion
Don't be a dick, he's never right about anything (sorry Mustafa, we disagree about everything).

A little prank to us but not to her

If she hadn't taken that call,she'd still be alive
Well yes, as it turned out. But you can probably say that for hundreds of suicides in the UK each year. Many suicides will have something small that pushed the person over the edge. I've just called you a dick (in jest), and if that pushes you over the edge it will be incredibly sad, but that doesn't mean I'm to blame.

What the DJs did will have been discussed by millions of people around the world, and how many of them will have said it was irresponsible, and could lead to the woman's death? None I assume, because it's really quite an unthinkable outcome.

People are regularly humiliated on the tv and radio for our entertainment, one of them could easily commit suicide - shall we ban public piss taking? What if 'Jamie' had killed himself? What happened to him on NSC seemed worse to me than this prank. This nurse is one of two that were taken in, and I expect it's the hospital policies that are to blame for that.
 




cjd

Well-known member
Jun 22, 2006
6,131
La Rochelle
So now no one in the world should ever say anything cheeky or rude to anyone ever, in case it's the straw that breaks the camels back? Bollox.

You are completely wrong, the minimum you could expect is that hospital procedures are looked at.

And that is 'bollox' too.

The minimum we could have expected was the world media acting like a pack of wolves trying to find out the names of who gave out the information...who took the first phonecall.....and then splashing it across their Sunday rags.

I dont think there are many average people who would cope with that sort of pressure very well. This unfortunate poor woman obviously didnt.
 


matthew

Well-known member
Sep 20, 2009
2,413
Ovingdean, United Kingdom
Oh come on it's not the Aussies fault.

They did a prank call which was quite funny

It was hardly even serious and unbelievable that they got through.

I blame the media for making it such a big story that the woman committed suicide over it, surely she must have had big problems before anyway to do it. Don't blame the callers at all could have happened to anyone.
 


matthew

Well-known member
Sep 20, 2009
2,413
Ovingdean, United Kingdom
Terrible news......so sad.

Stupid and pointless wind up merchants need to take a good look at themselves and try to distinguish between 'fun' and downright maliciousness.

How is a prank call malicious
 




Gregory2Smith1

J'les aurai!
Sep 21, 2011
5,476
Auch
Eh? I'm not sure I've ever had to deal with a compliment before. Thanks (not sure if that's the appropriate thing to say in such circumstances).

Don't be a dick, he's never right about anything (sorry Mustafa, we disagree about everything).

Well yes, as it turned out. But you can probably say that for hundreds of suicides in the UK each year. Many suicides will have something small that pushed the person over the edge. I've just called you a dick (in jest), and if that pushes you over the edge it will be incredibly sad, but that doesn't mean I'm to blame.

What the DJs did will have been discussed by millions of people around the world, and how many of them will have said it was irresponsible, and could lead to the woman's death? None I assume, because it's really quite an unthinkable outcome.

People are regularly humiliated on the tv and radio for our entertainment, one of them could easily commit suicide - shall we ban public piss taking? What if 'Jamie' had killed himself? What happened to him on NSC seemed worse to me than this prank. This nurse is one of two that were taken in, and I expect it's the hospital policies that are to blame for that.

Again, yes you have a point

calling me a "dick" doesn't even register

living and working in France I get the piss taken every day
 


Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
50,252
Goldstone
And that is 'bollox' too.

The minimum we could have expected was the world media acting like a pack of wolves trying to find out the names of who gave out the information...who took the first phonecall.....and then splashing it across their Sunday rags.
I disagree with you about the meaning of 'minimum'.
 




cjd

Well-known member
Jun 22, 2006
6,131
La Rochelle
Oh come on it's not the Aussies fault.

They did a prank call which was quite funny

It was hardly even serious and unbelievable that they got through.

I blame the media for making it such a big story that the woman committed suicide over it, surely she must have had big problems before anyway to do it. Don't blame the callers at all could have happened to anyone.


Interesting at 6 seconds in..."we dont want to cause any trouble". Really...? How f***ing stupid are they...?
 




beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,399
Either the staff had been trained how to check the identity of family members, and the staff failed - in which case they could get, and deserve some discipline.
Or the hospital hadn't prepared staff for checking the identity of callers.

so now its the fault of the nurses or the hospital. anyone, except the numbnuts who came up with the idea?
 


Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
50,252
Goldstone
so now its the fault of the nurses or the hospital. anyone, except the numbnuts who came up with the idea?
Depends what you mean by 'its' (and I'm not talking about the missing apostrophe). The hospital gave out confidential information. That is the fault of people within the hospital, not of the prank call. I clearly wasn't suggesting they were at fault for the aftermath.
 


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