Anyone got any bloody hard football questions

[otk]

Who was the first player to score hat-tricks against the same club in both matches of a Premier League season?

Shearer?

 

[Sussex on Leith]

I won't be getting a bonus point...

Fair enough - interesting story though (the demise of Clydebank that is). Very close parallels with a story that was happening in the English leagues at about the same time (here endeth the clue).

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Fair enough - interesting story though (the demise of Clydebank that is). Very close parallels with a story that was happening in the English leagues at about the same time (here endeth the clue).

Wimbledon to MK? I seem to remember they were rivals with Airdree...or something to do with Airdree at the time. What happened? Am I on the right track?

 

[Sussex on Leith]

Wimbledon to MK? I seem to remember they were rivals with Airdree...or something to do with Airdree at the time. What happened? Am I on the right track?

You certainly are. Airdrieonians were liquidated in 2002, and a consortium attempted to set up a "new" Airdrie and applied for this "newco" - where have I heard that more recently... - to take the place of the liquidated club in the Scottish league, The application failed - Gretna were elected instead, which all seemed to go pretty well - so the consortium turned its attention to Clydebank, then in Scottish Division 2 and in huge financial trouble. They bought the club, moved it lock stock and barrel back to the existing ground in Airdrie, and took over Clydebank's league status as Airdrie United. The Scottish Football League approved the deal and the "other" Franchise FC was born.

There was a good article in Four Four Two last year highlighting the parallels (and quite prescient re AFC Wimbledon/MK Dons given this year's FA Cup draw):

http://fourfourtwo.com/blogs/fitbafocus/archive/2011/08/10/dons-and-bankies-stand-up-against-the-franchises.aspx

Incidentally, I got my facts slightly wrong when I said a team called Clydebank played in the SFL from "1965 (or arguably 1964). Clydebank were elected to the Scottish league in 1966, not 1965. But for the duration of the 1964-5 season, there was a team called "East Stirlingshire Clydebank FC", playing in Clydebank, as a result of yet another dodgy merger/acquisition, only this time with Clydebank as the apparent predators rather than prey.

Full story, courtesy of Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clydebank_fc

Whatever the rights and wrongs of it all, it's quite a history for a small town football team.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

You certainly are. Airdrieonians were liquidated in 2002, and a consortium attempted to set up a "new" Airdrie and applied for this "newco" - where have I heard that more recently... - to take the place of the liquidated club in the Scottish league, The application failed - Gretna were elected instead, which all seemed to go pretty well - so the consortium turned its attention to Clydebank, then in Scottish Division 2 and in huge financial trouble. They bought the club, moved it lock stock and barrel back to the existing ground in Airdrie, and took over Clydebank's league status as Airdrie United. The Scottish Football League approved the deal and the "other" Franchise FC was born.

There was a good article in Four Four Two last year highlighting the parallels (and quite prescient re AFC Wimbledon/MK Dons given this year's FA Cup draw):

http://fourfourtwo.com/blogs/fitbafocus/archive/2011/08/10/dons-and-bankies-stand-up-against-the-franchises.aspx

Incidentally, I got my facts slightly wrong when I said a team called Clydebank played in the SFL from "1965 (or arguably 1964). Clydebank were elected to the Scottish league in 1966, not 1965. But for the duration of the 1964-5 season, there was a team called "East Stirlingshire Clydebank FC", playing in Clydebank, as a result of yet another dodgy merger/acquisition, only this time with Clydebank as the apparent predators rather than prey.

Full story, courtesy of Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clydebank_fc

Whatever the rights and wrongs of it all, it's quite a history for a small town football team.

Blimey. How far is Airdrie from Clydebank?

 

[Sussex on Leith]

Blimey. How far is Airdrie from Clydebank?

Best part of 30 miles, with the small matter of Glasgow in between them. Certainly not what you could call local rivals. As with the MK Dons situation, the location of the previously existing team wasn't of any great interest to the buyers - only the facts that they had League status and were financially vulnerable.

 

[otk]

Wright?

Henry?

Collymore?

Berbatov?

Fowler?

Keane?

Ferguson?

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Best part of 30 miles, with the small matter of Glasgow in between them. Certainly not what you could call local rivals. As with the MK Dons situation, the location of the previously existing team wasn't of any great interest to the buyers - only the facts that they had League status and were financially vulnerable.

Reading that article in 442...it's almost worse than what happened to Wimbledon. And the fact that they cannot be promoted into the League...changes need to be made. How many people watch the Bankies?

 

[Sussex on Leith]

Reading that article in 442...it's almost worse than what happened to Wimbledon. And the fact that they cannot be promoted into the League...changes need to be made. How many people watch the Bankies?

400-ish for league games (not many but better than a few Scottish League clubs). They took 6000 fans to Kilmarnock when they reached the Scottish Junior Cup final in 2009.

Anyway, I should stop hijacking this thread with Clydebank factoids, interesting story though it is. So back to the topic at hand:

Which is the highest altitude ground in English league football? (Sorry if it's already been asked and I've missed it.)

 

[Ali_rrr]

400-ish for league games (not many but better than a few Scottish League clubs). They took 6000 fans to Kilmarnock when they reached the Scottish Junior Cup final in 2009.

Anyway, I should stop hijacking this thread with Clydebank factoids, interesting story though it is. So back to the topic at hand:

Which is the highest altitude ground in English league football? (Sorry if it's already been asked and I've missed it.)

Is it the Hawthorns?

 

[Stewart]

How many goals were scored in the 73rd minute by a RM during the 1954-55 season, and how many of them were scored by a header, and what was the average age of all of them.

 

[Sussex on Leith]

Is it the Hawthorns?

It certainly is. Excellent work.

 

[Sussex on Leith]

How many goals were scored in the 73rd minute by a RM during the 1954-55 season, and how many of them were scored by a header, and what was the average age of all of them.

Ah, this is a trick question, isn't it? I'll say none, as there wouldn't have been any right midfielders, just right wingers and wing halves.

Or was that not your point?

 

[papajaff]

Actually 2 others - Don Welsh and Dean White(caretaker)

Don't forget WankerClough

 

[papajaff]

Liverpool won the league most times in the 80's; who were runners up most times?

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Liverpool won the league most times in the 80's; who were runners up most times?

Ipswich?

 

[papajaff]

Ipswich?

No sir

 

[Uter]

Liverpool won the league most times in the 80's; who were runners up most times?

Liverpool?

 

[Goldstone Rapper]

Liverpool?

Yes, 1985, 1987, 1989.

Ipswich runners up in 1981 and 1982.

 

[Publius Ovidius]

When will Vicente put on the stripes again?

Surely an impossible question to answer