janee
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Guilty 4 match ban, £220K fine
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John Terry
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why only 4 games? suarez got 8 games? absolute joke!
Especially as I thought there was no TV evidence of Suarez saying what he said, compared to the clear footage of Terry. No matter what "context" his lawyers might argue it was said in.
The FA really do make it easy for people to criticise them.
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
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i cant recall it but there is valid reason in line with the rules, he was never going to get same 8 match ban.
the thing is that the FA offense is using the langauge on the pitch - the context is irrelevant for purposes of the FA. in law the context is important, as merely saying the words is not itself an offense.
I wonder what Chelsea will do now?
Nathan
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- Jan 8, 2010
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So because he said a few rude words he is being fined? Or is it because he is a racist that he is being fined?
junior
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Libel alert!
To be found guilty, in a court of law, you need to be found under no doubt, guilty of the crime, and the intent has to be there.
The FA can work on the basis that he PROBABLY did do it.
Suarez was fined "only" £40,000, Terry has been fined £220k.
happypig
Staring at the rude boys
To prove in a court of law it has to be proven "beyond reasonable doubt" but the FA requires only "balance of probability"
FA Statement
An Independent Regulatory Commission has today [Thursday 27 September 2012] found a charge of misconduct against John Terry proven and has issued a suspension for a period of four matches and a fine of £220,000, pending appeal.
The Football Association charged Mr Terry on Friday 27 July 2012 with using abusive and/or insulting words and/or behaviour towards Queens Park Rangers’ Anton Ferdinand and which included a reference to colour and/or race contrary to FA Rule E3[2] in relation to the Queens Park Rangers FC versus Chelsea FC fixture at Loftus Road on 23 October 2011.
The charge was the result of The FA’s long-standing investigation into this matter, which was placed on hold at the request of the Crown Prosecution Service and Mr Terry’s representatives pending the outcome of the criminal trial.
A hearing took place from 24-27 September 2012 before an Independent Regulatory Commission of The FA to consider the charge.
The decision of the Independent Regulatory Commission is as follows:
Mr Terry be suspended from all domestic club football until such time as Chelsea’s First Team have completed four competitive matches
Fined the sum of £220,000
The Independent Regulatory Commission will provide written reasons for its decision in due course. Mr Terry has the right to appeal the decision of the Independent Regulatory Commission to an Appeal Board. An appeal must be lodged within 14 days from receipt of the written reasons for the decision.
The penalty is suspended until after the outcome of any appeal, or the time for appealing expires, or should Mr Terry decide not to appeal. The reason for this is to ensure that the penalty does not take effect before any appeal so that Mr Terry has an effective right of appeal.
TheFA.com - Independent Regulatory Commission reach conclusion in John Terry case
An Independent Regulatory Commission has today [Thursday 27 September 2012] found a charge of misconduct against John Terry proven and has issued a suspension for a period of four matches and a fine of £220,000, pending appeal.
The Football Association charged Mr Terry on Friday 27 July 2012 with using abusive and/or insulting words and/or behaviour towards Queens Park Rangers’ Anton Ferdinand and which included a reference to colour and/or race contrary to FA Rule E3[2] in relation to the Queens Park Rangers FC versus Chelsea FC fixture at Loftus Road on 23 October 2011.
The charge was the result of The FA’s long-standing investigation into this matter, which was placed on hold at the request of the Crown Prosecution Service and Mr Terry’s representatives pending the outcome of the criminal trial.
A hearing took place from 24-27 September 2012 before an Independent Regulatory Commission of The FA to consider the charge.
The decision of the Independent Regulatory Commission is as follows:
Mr Terry be suspended from all domestic club football until such time as Chelsea’s First Team have completed four competitive matches
Fined the sum of £220,000
The Independent Regulatory Commission will provide written reasons for its decision in due course. Mr Terry has the right to appeal the decision of the Independent Regulatory Commission to an Appeal Board. An appeal must be lodged within 14 days from receipt of the written reasons for the decision.
The penalty is suspended until after the outcome of any appeal, or the time for appealing expires, or should Mr Terry decide not to appeal. The reason for this is to ensure that the penalty does not take effect before any appeal so that Mr Terry has an effective right of appeal.
TheFA.com - Independent Regulatory Commission reach conclusion in John Terry case
Nathan
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- Jan 8, 2010
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So what is he guilty of then? Swearing or saying racist things?
I have missed what the charge was for.
Decode
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- Jan 25, 2010
- 254
Suarez admitted in his own statement to the FA what he had said, his argument was that it wasn't a racist term in his homeland.
keaton
Big heart, hot blood and balls. Big balls
- Nov 18, 2004
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Of a different charge with a different burden of proof. But heh, what would their QC know compared to you.
father_and_son
Well-known member
Different burden of proof... A court is "beyond reasonable doubt", a civil case (or the FA in this instance) is "on the balance of probabilities".
drew
Drew
I don't think you have a clue how our legal system actually works!!!!!