O/T ok so I was probably in the wrong, but bl**dy hell

[BRIGHT ON Q]

There are signs up at roadworks sometimes saying 'use both lanes and merge in turn'.Funny how when people read these it seems to work well.When there are no signs you just get this exact situation.

 

[Easy 10]

The only time I get annoyed by it is for exampe on the way to Arundel when there is only one lane from the A27 up the hill (the other lane goes left at the top) and you get the knuckle draggers in bazzed up cars who race up the left lane until they find a gap and push in - now that I find annoying...

I have a neat little trick for that.

I race up the left lane, dragging my knuckles all the way, but then instead of cutting in, I take the left turn and just afterwards I turn right into the McDonalds carpark. Turn around in the carpark and come out again at the lights in the northbound queue, and bobs yer knob, you've swapped a half-mile queue for one thats just a few vehicles long.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Absolutely.
When approaching a queue of stationary traffic on a dual or 3 lane highway surely it is simply common courtesy to join the back of the queue and wait your turn to get past the bottleneck.

Arrogant twats steam down the outside, then expect others to yield at the last minute. If this behaviour means they end up in a confrontation then frankly they shouldn't be surprised.

Just wait your turn, chill out and get to where you are going just as quick and without the stress.

Bullseye.

 

[portlock seagull]

I have a neat little trick for that.

I race up the left lane, dragging my knuckles all the way, but then instead of cutting in, I take the left turn and just afterwards I turn right into the McDonalds carpark. Turn around in the carpark and come out again at the lights in the northbound queue, and bobs yer knob, you've swapped a half-mile queue for one thats just a few vehicles long.

Can't argue with that. Local knowledge gotta count for something!

 

[livingston seagull]

I'm sorry, but for a man who usually talks a lot of sense Lord B is advocating a selfish principle. Going to the front of an empty outside lane and then pushing in at the front is exactly the same as walking down the side of a queue in the post office and demanding to be served first. You join the post office queue in the order you come into the premises; for reasonable good manners you should similarly join a pinch point traffic queue in, as closely as possible, the order you come upon it.

If there are signs saying "use two lanes" then follow them; if there are not, then follow your natural instincts of good manners. If you have no manners, then just push in - although there is the risk of having the side of your car removed as I once saw happen to the driver of an Audi trying the stunt in front of a lorry once. Not that I would advocate such a thing of course. On the other hand, Lord B's car is extremely small...

I cannot for the life of me believe some people on NSC comparing queuing in a post office/supermarket, to merging traffic on the road. It just isn't the same thing! You don’t form an orderly queue on the road!

I imagine all of the people complaining about queue jumping are the same people who drive on Dual carriage ways and motorways and sit in the middle lane/fast lane and just refuse to move over even though lane one is empty!

Merging far too early and lane hogging cause traffic!

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

Is this still f***ing going on ?!. Get to the back of the queue you selfish bastard

 

[Lyndhurst 14]

Probably wouldn’t make much difference in Delhi

 

[Tim Over Whelmed]

I have a neat little trick for that.

I race up the left lane, dragging my knuckles all the way, but then instead of cutting in, I take the left turn and just afterwards I turn right into the McDonalds carpark. Turn around in the carpark and come out again at the lights in the northbound queue, and bobs yer knob, you've swapped a half-mile queue for one thats just a few vehicles long.

Better still, do as easy says but head into LA, turn right at Bodyshop Roundabout, down to Tesco's, turn right again and head out on the Bognor Road turning back up to A27 at Fontwell, miss the whole Arundel bit altogether ... and give me some peace on a Friday evening!

 

[Helter]

Correct. A harsh lesson but the other bloke was well within his rights imo.

No he wasn't, the other bloke was breaking the law. Two laines merge and the inside lane should inter lock with traffic on the outside lane.

Get your facts right before posting complete rubbish.

 

[Theatre of Trees]

TIP:

When travelling East from Chichester on any evening or when there is traffic congestion try heading towards Storrington on the next roundabout after Fontwell Park Racecourse (I think it's the B2139) it's left in stead of right to Arundel. This takes you through Houghton, Storrington, Washington and past Steyning popping you back on the A27 at the Shoreham flyover.

That is all.

I do this quite regularly travelling both east and west, and while you don't travel as fast as on some sections of the A27 you at least bypass the bottlenecks at Worthing and Crossbush and more importantly keep moving. Its the A26 which joins at Fontwell, the roundabout north of Arundel is where the B road to Storrington via Houghton and Amberley starts. Then pick up the A283 from Storrington to the Shoreham flyover.

 

[Cheshire Cat]

Extract from Highway Code
Overtaking (162-169) : Directgov - Travel and transport

163
Overtake only when it is safe and legal to do so. You should

•not get too close to the vehicle you intend to overtake
•use your mirrors, signal when it is safe to do so, take a quick sideways glance if necessary into the blind spot area and then start to move out
•not assume that you can simply follow a vehicle ahead which is overtaking; there may only be enough room for one vehicle
•move quickly past the vehicle you are overtaking, once you have started to overtake. Allow plenty of room. Move back to the left as soon as you can but do not cut in

•take extra care at night and in poor visibility when it is harder to judge speed and distance
•give way to oncoming vehicles before passing parked vehicles or other obstructions on your side of the road
•only overtake on the left if the vehicle in front is signalling to turn right, and there is room to do so
•stay in your lane if traffic is moving slowly in queues. If the queue on your right is moving more slowly than you are, you may pass on the left
•give motorcyclists, cyclists and horse riders at least as much room as you would when overtaking a car (see Rules 211-215)

Remember: Mirrors – Signal – Manoeuvre

167
DO NOT overtake where you might come into conflict with other road users. For example

•approaching or at a road junction on either side of the road
•where the road narrows
•when approaching a school crossing patrol
•between the kerb and a bus or tram when it is at a stop
•where traffic is queuing at junctions or road works
•when you would force another road user to swerve or slow down
•at a level crossing
•when a road user is indicating right, even if you believe the signal should have been cancelled. Do not take a risk; wait for the signal to be cancelled
•stay behind if you are following a cyclist approaching a roundabout or junction, and you intend to turn left
•when a tram is standing at a kerbside tram stop and there is no clearly marked passing lane for other traffic168
Being overtaken. If a driver is trying to overtake you, maintain a steady course and speed, slowing down if necessary to let the vehicle pass. Never obstruct drivers who wish to pass. Speeding up or driving unpredictably while someone is overtaking you is dangerous. Drop back to maintain a two-second gap if someone overtakes and pulls into the gap in front of you.

169
Do not hold up a long queue of traffic, especially if you are driving a large or slow-moving vehicle. Check your mirrors frequently, and if necessary, pull in where it is safe and let traffic pass.

 

[tedebear]

I have a neat little trick for that.

I race up the left lane, dragging my knuckles all the way, but then instead of cutting in, I take the left turn and just afterwards I turn right into the McDonalds carpark. Turn around in the carpark and come out again at the lights in the northbound queue, and bobs yer knob, you've swapped a half-mile queue for one thats just a few vehicles long.

Fantastic work there, loving your style! A bob the builder plaster for your scraped knuckes...

 

[Skint Gull]

Some people stick to the law and others try to use common sense, the problem being the common sense route only really works if everyone does it.

No, the common sense idea works perfectly well apart from nutjobs. If people are too thick to take the outside lane when it's empty its their own fault and they're the one's who will lose out, kinda like natural selection in a funny sorta way!

In what i hope will be my final contribution to this thread (although i'm not banking on it!), i would just like to say these 2 things:

2 lanes merging into one is done where the right merges to the left. It has to go one way or the other, they can't just literally merge the lanes. Can you imagine the CARNAGE if all you Doris's in your Micra's in the left lane 3 miles before the bottleneck had to try and merge into the right? Of course not.

If you Doris's are all correct and we should merge straight away, how far do you reckon the queue Westbound into Worthing would be along the A27 by the retail park where it goes to one lane? As it is you barely get past that garage on the crossroads, if we all merged straight away the queue would start in f***ing HOVE!

 

[Acker79]

No, the common sense idea works perfectly well apart from nutjobs. If people are too thick to take the outside lane when it's empty its their own fault and they're the one's who will lose out, kinda like natural selection in a funny sorta way!

In what i hope will be my final contribution to this thread (although i'm not banking on it!), i would just like to say these 2 things:

2 lanes merging into one is done where the right merges to the left. It has to go one way or the other, they can't just literally merge the lanes. Can you imagine the CARNAGE if all you Doris's in your Micra's in the left lane 3 miles before the bottleneck had to try and merge into the right? Of course not.

If you Doris's are all correct and we should merge straight away, how far do you reckon the queue Westbound into Worthing would be along the A27 by the retail park where it goes to one lane? As it is you barely get past that garage on the crossroads, if we all merged straight away the queue would start in f***ing HOVE!

Following the law makes you a nutjob?

 

[Skint Gull]

Following the law makes you a nutjob?

A) its not the law, SURELY can you see from my final point in the above post that your logic is INSANE!

B) no, the current system works fine in as much as that those too daft to use the right lane do lose out to those with enough common sense to use it. The problem only occurs when you get one of these people who are too daft to use the outside lane who is a violent NUTJOB!

 

[Acker79]

A) its not the law, SURELY can you see from my final point in the above post that your logic is INSANE!

Well, your point doesn't seem to be as strong for evidence as being the law as the highway code extracts posted earlier in the thread.

 

[Bad Ash]

If there are two lanes, fill them. Everyone else behind you gets to move up. Problem is people seem to head for the slow lane at the first sign of merging, USE BOTH FRIGGING LANES and we'll all get to where we are going quicker....

Its the tossers who start a long long queue in the slow lane who cause all this stress to be fair...

The point mentioned a couple of times is that in this situation the single lane is the bottle neck. A single file of traffic moving steadily is faster than two lanes merging with people cutting in at the last minute, where people end up bustling for position, slamming on of brakes, etc.

Therefore by using that outside lane until the last minute you aren'ty helping the flow of traffic for anyone other than yourself.

 

[NS Herald]

Clearly the retards will always want to queue - probably the majority as evidenced by those dimwits sitting in the inside lane.

The lessor spotted 'intelligent' driver will use common sense, use BOTH lanes and then await abuse from retards who want to queue and queue and queue and queue etc.

I suggest the retards speak to a traffic cop or any copper for that matter and try and learn what they should be doing and don't blame the minority who know what they are doing and doing it correctly

 

[Arthritic Toe]

Well, your point doesn't seem to be as strong for evidence as being the law as the highway code extracts posted earlier in the thread.

Those highway code extracts are completely out of context and irrelevant.

Someone's going to quote from the Bible in a minute.

 

[sydney]

traffic jams and arse-hole drivers are the way of the western world unfortunately,it's best to just deal with it the best way you can.........i would prefer to have a whaling harpoon mounted to the bonnet of my car so that i could olbliterate kants that piss me off.....one thing that arses me off is the merging issue , i mean ,it ain't f***ing rocket science is it...??