WSF. The Origins Of Casuals In Brighton.

[wellquickwoody]

if he isnt bha,i would think maybe ex headhunter,esp if he drank in the maytree

Good call. Wonder what that man is doing now.......

 

[Marlton & Hove Albion]

Cavern. So far, so good. Grew up on the estate, went to Falmer with some of those mentioned already and many nights spent at the 67 Centre. Clarkes, Dawes, Lyons, Beaky....all the right names. The last mentioned (I recall) later involved in heavy stuff in Ulster. As someone not deeply participating in this (I loved the club too much and still do), it seemed that Moulsecoombe was an obvious breeding ground but that Woodingdean and Whitehawk were far more active in the football side of things. Paul Gent was always in and round especially after he buggered up his gift and chance to play.

I spent a mad summer (1981) with Eddie D and funny to think about that dance club on the second floor by the Astoria. Small bottles of Pernod tucked inside Diadora Track suit tops. What a funny old place that was.....and remember the Teddy Boy nights well. Not so much fun was Eddie's rage fueled desire to snack the shit out of any poor and unsuspecting French, German, Italian students (usually 2-3 at a time) randomly available. It all went too far several years after when he attacked a taxi driver one night (a free ride home not enough) and he moved to HM Lewes. There was never a deep love for The Albion, it was a vehicle for a good ruck with away fans in town.

I'd be interested in your perspective on some of the NF infiltration that was a regular theme (at least on the East Terrace - as we were closer to the Away Pen in the NE Corner) and whether that was about silly impressionable boys or more deep seated. And also about some of the neighbourhood pubs White Admiral, Hikers Rest, Bevendean Hotel if your memories and experiences intersect. Some of my most shameful away days began early inside these establishments, transported by White Transit (Special Brew Fueled) to a far away terrace. I was much more a voyeur and apparently still am.

 

[thecavern]

Hey Marlton. You are right on the money with your comments. Every comment from someone like you who was there and remembers, is like getting a little bit of the past back to life. I hope you are keeping well and enjoying my memories as I enjoyed reading yours. I hope to touch upon some of the things you mention soon. Cheers Marlton.

 

[macky]

Didn't realise Darren Lyons had died, when was that ?

years ago mate
must be getting on for 20

 

[Ernest]

Cavern were you with the wsf on the pre season tours to holland in 81 & 82. Some great memories of punch ups with the mollucans and general mayhem.

 

[macky]

Cavern. So far, so good. Grew up on the estate, went to Falmer with some of those mentioned already and many nights spent at the 67 Centre. Clarkes, Dawes, Lyons, Beaky....all the right names. The last mentioned (I recall) later involved in heavy stuff in Ulster. As someone not deeply participating in this (I loved the club too much and still do), it seemed that Moulsecoombe was an obvious breeding ground but that Woodingdean and Whitehawk were far more active in the football side of things. Paul Gent was always in and round especially after he buggered up his gift and chance to play.

I spent a mad summer (1981) with Eddie D and funny to think about that dance club on the second floor by the Astoria. Small bottles of Pernod tucked inside Diadora Track suit tops. What a funny old place that was.....and remember the Teddy Boy nights well. Not so much fun was Eddie's rage fueled desire to snack the shit out of any poor and unsuspecting French, German, Italian students (usually 2-3 at a time) randomly available. It all went too far several years after when he attacked a taxi driver one night (a free ride home not enough) and he moved to HM Lewes. There was never a deep love for The Albion, it was a vehicle for a good ruck with away fans in town.

I'd be interested in your perspective on some of the NF infiltration that was a regular theme (at least on the East Terrace - as we were closer to the Away Pen in the NE Corner) and whether that was about silly impressionable boys or more deep seated. And also about some of the neighbourhood pubs White Admiral, Hikers Rest, Bevendean Hotel if your memories and experiences intersect. Some of my most shameful away days began early inside these establishments, transported by White Transit (Special Brew Fueled) to a far away terrace. I was much more a voyeur and apparently still am.

and then even more so
nasty

 

[Superphil]

Nothing

 

[cunning fergus]

Yeah...........and I dont expect he'll be too happy to have his name plastered all over here btw!!!

I agree, he's a proper tough nut, if he knew about this he'd smash caverns's head in with his manbag.

 

[ArfurW8]

Cavern were you with the wsf on the pre season tours to holland in 81 & 82. Some great memories of punch ups with the mollucans and general mayhem.

Were there any wsf in Eindhoven ?

 

[Ecosse Exile]

Anyone who was about in the WSF scene will know who Beaky is, as will the OB, so far nothing has been mentioned that would suprise the OB or that could get Him lifted so i dont think he would be too worried.
I last saw Beaky at Northampton a couple of years ago, i was sat with Gaz D. and Beaky was sat next to him, he has changed so much (as we all have) that i didnt even recognise him any more. After the game i was giving Gaz a lift back to the station and reminiscing about old times when i said i havent seen Beaky in years, Gaz just laughed and said "we were sat next to him all night"

 

[Gwylan]

Oh gawd he'll be puting a name in the frame for the trunk murders next.

I don't think Queenspark Publishing will be taking this up. But saying that and after re reading it is very intersting. Take it away Cavern

Oh, I don't know - it's an interesting insight.

I'm a Scoomer and know the Bevendean Hotel very well - drank there often, there often seemed to be knock-off gear available.

This is a side of Brighton that I don't know. I've never been part of any 'firm' and while I was a regular attender of away games, I always steered clear of trouble (or tried to). I'm sure I'd have recognised some of the people Cavern's talking about - even if I don't know their names.

I'm not one to glamorise violence but I recognise that it's part of life and I think that it's interesting to hear about another aspect of supporting the Albion - as Cavern says, this is not about making value judgments.

 

[Psychobilly freakout]

I would go down and have a laugh at the Teds “doing the bop”

What.................You lost me there fella

Good read, Next chapter please

 

[J2 BHA]

Good stuff Cavern, keep it coming!

 

[minnieme]

pssst Tim - It was SKINS spelt backwards because he did it himself in the mirror

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

In vaguely related news there's a play on at the Pavillion Theatre tonight called 'On Race Hill' about the 'dark history' of Brighton. Only a fiver to get in as well. Think Cavern's selling ice creams down the front at half time.

 

[Superphil]

Nothing

 

[csider]

f*** me, love name dropping you lot

 

[severnside gull]

okay so I'm coming round to this thread even if I don't understand half of the language used and sympathise even less with the participants...........it's becoming a fascinating read

 

[minnieme]

Cavern. So far, so good. Grew up on the estate, went to Falmer with some of those mentioned already and many nights spent at the 67 Centre. Clarkes, Dawes, Lyons, Beaky....all the right names. The last mentioned (I recall) later involved in heavy stuff in Ulster. As someone not deeply participating in this (I loved the club too much and still do), it seemed that Moulsecoombe was an obvious breeding ground but that Woodingdean and Whitehawk were far more active in the football side of things. Paul Gent was always in and round especially after he buggered up his gift and chance to play.

I spent a mad summer (1981) with Eddie D and funny to think about that dance club on the second floor by the Astoria. Small bottles of Pernod tucked inside Diadora Track suit tops. What a funny old place that was.....and remember the Teddy Boy nights well. Not so much fun was Eddie's rage fueled desire to snack the shit out of any poor and unsuspecting French, German, Italian students (usually 2-3 at a time) randomly available. It all went too far several years after when he attacked a taxi driver one night (a free ride home not enough) and he moved to HM Lewes. There was never a deep love for The Albion, it was a vehicle for a good ruck with away fans in town.

I'd be interested in your perspective on some of the NF infiltration that was a regular theme (at least on the East Terrace - as we were closer to the Away Pen in the NE Corner) and whether that was about silly impressionable boys or more deep seated. And also about some of the neighbourhood pubs White Admiral, Hikers Rest, Bevendean Hotel if your memories and experiences intersect. Some of my most shameful away days began early inside these establishments, transported by White Transit (Special Brew Fueled) to a far away terrace. I was much more a voyeur and apparently still am.

Just out of interest mate, what age are you? as i grew up in Moulsecoomb & know all the people you mention. I was in the same year as PG & went to the 67 centre. If my memory serves me right it was every Tuesday night.

 

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does anyone remember palace away one year, very early eighties when we travelled up in a removals van that one of the whitehawk lot pulled up at brighton station ? it got overturned outside and we had to get the train back!