SCR Phone In Special

[backson]

It is still relevant because Wilkins has been offered the job of First Team Coach. Any problems that are not dealt with now will persist and could, potentially, cause a rift next season.

Personally I think Wilkins should tell Knight where to shove his job offer and then go and sign a decent contract with a Chmpionship club. The more we have this vacuum of information and reaction from Wilkins the less respect I have for him.

I agree with nearly everything there, we (as in the club, DK, DW and MA; not necessarily us fans) do need to get the problems out and sorted, so we can move forward.

As a fan, I would like DW to stay as coach. If I was him though, I would be considering what is in my own best interests; if it's elsewhere, so be it.

Your last sentence is harsh, this is a big decision for him, and needs to made with a cool mind. I'd want a few days to calm myself down first before making my mind up.

 

[Easy 10]

If we were into June / July or getting close to pre-season training then this would be a problem. As it stands, I reckon we'll know before the end of the week whether Wilkins gives Knight his signature or his finger.

 

[Wienergull]

I've refrained from posting or even reading any of the threads on here because I knew just how much of a Scheissfest this would turn out to be and that I would have to wade through pages and pages of rumours masquerading as "facts", ego-flaunting and name calling....until today that is, when my curiosity got the better of me. When Lord B speaks, I listen.

I just have one question. If DK thought that DW had acted unprofessionally in the contract negotiations with Hammond, why was he not dismissed at the time? At the risk of being branded a conspiracy theorist, could the timing of his sacking have something to do with the urgent need to bring back the feelgood factor and to get bums on seats in the run-up to Falmer? Apologies if others have already made this point.

For what it's worth, I thought that Dean did an excellent job in reaching 7th, particularly as he had to rebuild his side mid-season. I was shocked by the news of his dismissal and still feel gutted for him. But I know that football fans have short memories when it suits them and if MA delivers the Promised Land of the Championship, I will be cheering with the best of them.

 

[BensGrandad]

Had I been in Dean Wilkins position I would, having worked extremely hard for the past 9 months at least, have taken my wife away for a short holiday to relax and discuss the situation with her. Could DW not have done that. A final point on the breaking of the news that it had been known about since February, full marks to Lord B and Harty for keeping it to themselves and accepting that to have disclosed the information would have served no purpose whatsoever. Well done to you both, I do not know that I could have contained myself so well.

 

[Uncle Buck]

The link between Knight and Reid outside of the Reid playing for the club is that Reid played at Bradford with Standing, who is related to Knight. I believe that Reid was recommended to the Albion by Standing and I think also lodged with Standing's family in Hove whilst he was initially down here on a short term contract.

When was Wilkins actually told of the 'structural' changes in the coaching set up? Was it done in person?

 

[Knotty]

Had I been in Dean Wilkins position I would, having worked extremely hard for the past 9 months at least, have taken my wife away for a short holiday to relax and discuss the situation with her. Could DW not have done that. A final point on the breaking of the news that it had been known about since February, full marks to Lord B and Harty for keeping it to themselves and accepting that to have disclosed the information would have served no purpose whatsoever. Well done to you both, I do not know that I could have contained myself so well.

Surely you would have contained yourself as you would have had the best interests of the club at heart.

In any case, all LB and others were told in February was that DK had concerns about DW, not that they would sack him.

 

[BigGully]

The link between Knight and Reid outside of the Reid playing for the club is that Reid played at Bradford with Standing, who is related to Knight. I believe that Reid was recommended to the Albion by Standing and I think also lodged with Standing's family in Hove whilst he was initially down here on a short term contract.

When was Wilkins actually told of the 'structural' changes in the coaching set up? Was it done in person?

Thanks for that, it kinda ties up then that Reid may have a closer relationship with DK than maybe other players.

It follows that DK may of sanctioned his outburst.

I think that Wilkins was told in person, last Thursday evening.

 

[sten_super]

Thanks for that, it kinda ties up then that Reid may have a closer relationship with DK than maybe other players.

It follows that DK may of sanctioned his outburst.

I think that Wilkins was told in person, last Thursday evening.

Two things

i) may have

ii) it in absolutely no way 'follows' that DK may have sanctioned his outburst. So Paul Reid is friends with a relative of Dick Knight; therefore he will do anything at Dick's behest? Absolute bollocks. It is conspiracy theorism of the worst kind. Surely the outburst is not going to help his prospects of future employment... so do you think he would do that just a favour to a relative of a friend?

 

[BigGully]

Two things

i) may have

ii) it in absolutely no way 'follows' that DK may have sanctioned his outburst. So Paul Reid is friends with a relative of Dick Knight; therefore he will do anything at Dick's behest? Absolute bollocks. It is conspiracy theorism of the worst kind. Surely the outburst is not going to help his prospects of future employment... so do you think he would do that just a favour to a relative of a friend?

I was surprised that he did it all, without DK input or not.

But it seems like a prelude to the Thursday's sacking. I was told after Thursday that Reid was a very good personal friend of DK's.

You have to remember that the outburst has sullied Wilkins name to a degree.

Many are questioning his man-management skills, something that was highlighted in the Reid piece and was supposedly whispered by Knight back in January.

The thing about man management is that it depends on what success your having on the pitch and Wilkins was having plenty, therefore however he dealt with players should be deemed correct. ( its obvious to anyone that has had any contact with Wilkins is that he is not a nasty guy, can be tough for sure, but not nasty )

Brian Clough's man-management skills are regarded as legendry because of his brilliant footballing successes, however he probably used the same with Leeds United didnt get the success then his man-management skills were questioned.

I think that Wilkins successes this season might have warranted a fairer appraisal of that particular aspect of his management style.

 

[Easy 10]

You have to remember that the outburst has sullied Wilkins name to a degree.

Did it bollocks.
It was just a bitter parting-shot by a player who got the arse because he'd been released at the end of his contract. It didn't sully Wilkins's name in the slightest - this is when the majority of contracts are sorted one way of the other. The writing was on the wall for Reid - he just didn't like it. Nothing to do with Wilkins's man-management, and anyone who read it as otherwise is a bit of a silly billy.

 

[Questions]

Indeed. Or the manager. Or any of the players.

When Micky gets us into the premiership and we have multi-million pound investors in control, I dare say that the Albion will evolve into a proper football club - where NO-ONE at the club speaks to any of the paying punters. We'd have become a proper business that has to do with "fan affinity and brand devotion".

We'd all happily pay £50 a game to consume the product. And, if we don't want to, it'll be on the telly every week anyway.

So you think it makes us a better club because our chairman talks to a selected few about how long the manager has left.

Shame on you.

 

[ewe2]

I love all that has been said....... i have been a fan for 40 plus years, i also run a business......hell,i am a fan "give me sucess".........and that always comes at a price,......but its not my life !

 

[BigGully]

Did it bollocks.
It was just a bitter parting-shot by a player who got the arse because he'd been released at the end of his contract. It didn't sully Wilkins's name in the slightest - this is when the majority of contracts are sorted one way of the other. The writing was on the wall for Reid - he just didn't like it. Nothing to do with Wilkins's man-management, and anyone who read it as otherwise is a bit of a silly billy.

I agree to the point where you say it hasnt effected his reputation, I think most accept that Reids piece was a bitter retort to him being released.

But I keep seeing comments about the alledged 'miss man-management', some of you rightly disgard the claim, but it has stuck to a degree.

Now if it was contrived by Reid and the Chairman !!

 

[Easy 10]

Why would the chairman contrive to publically discredit the man he has offered the number 2 role to ? He wants Wilkins to stay at the club, as does Adams.

 

[The Large One]

So you think it makes us a better club because our chairman talks to a selected few about how long the manager has left.

Shame on you.

Does plain English pass you by?

As he has said, Dick said no such thing.

 

[BigGully]

Why would the chairman contrive to discredit the man he has offered the number 2 role to ? He wants Wilkins to stay at the club, as does Adams.

Well you see, I am also guessing that the Chairman's astute man-management skills might mean that Wilkins might find it difficult to stay and walk away and I am sure that DK is aware of this likelihood.

If he discredits Wilkins and he walks away, then this deflects some heat from the Chairman onto his victim.

 

[Easy 10]

Well you see, I am also guessing that the Chairman's astute man-management skills might mean that Wilkins might find it difficult to stay and walk away and I am sure that DK is aware of this likelihood.

If he discredits Wilkins and he walks away, then this deflects some heat from the Chairman onto his victim.

So we're back to your famous "guessing" then

 

[BigGully]

So we're back to your famous "guessing" then

Yep ...... famous eh ..... your too kind

 

[Questions]

Does plain English pass you by?

As he has said, Dick said no such thing.

f*** me you were there as well were you ?

Did they have cream cakes ?

 

[Lord Bracknell]

f*** me you were there as well were you ?

Did they have cream cakes ?

No he wasn't.

No they didn't.

But I can confirm that Dick said no such thing.