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[Politics] Donald Trump 2024







Greg Bobkin

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May 22, 2012
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Trump got a new record number of votes, Haley got over 70% of her votes from non registered republicans(Rumoured to be lefty students.)
Uh-huh? 'Rumoured' by whom?
 




Vankleek Hill Seagull

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Jul 5, 2003
8,254
Vankleek Hill, actually....
Front page of The New European magazine.
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zefarelly

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Jul 7, 2003
21,874
Sussex, by the sea
Please . . . Can this financially incompetent misogynist bully die soon. The usa is f***ed up beyond most countries scale of belief . . . Although England is dragging itself perilously close . . . . . No one needs or wants it to get any worse . . . . .
 


BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
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No one does front pages like the TNE
If the labelling of his voters pushes more people in his direction, does this stuff too?

I can't help but wonder if all the hysteria pushes people into or further into the cult of Trump.

@Crawley Dingo what do you think when you see front pages like this?
 


A1X

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Sep 1, 2017
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The one sliver of hope I cling to on the Ukraine situation if Trump does win is that the American arms manufacturing industry will be keen to keep having their wares “tested” against Russian gear, and they hold a lot of sway over Washington when it comes to the green stuff
 




dwayne

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Jul 5, 2003
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London
If I was in the US I would definitely vote trump over Biden.

But besides that I'm not sure why people on this board or Europeans are so bothered by trump being president.

Like this country both parties in the states are as bad as each other. At least trump is entertaining. Also, unless I'm wrong hardly any major conflicts seemed to kick off on his watch last time around, since Biden got into power there seems to be a different issue every week, the guy is a joke.
 


Hugo Rune

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Feb 23, 2012
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If I was in the US I would definitely vote trump over Biden.

But besides that I'm not sure why people on this board or Europeans are so bothered by trump being president.

Like this country both parties in the states are as bad as each other. At least trump is entertaining. Also, unless I'm wrong…..
Let me stop you there.
 






MJsGhost

Oooh Matron, I'm an
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Jun 26, 2009
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If I was in the US I would definitely vote trump over Biden.

But besides that I'm not sure why people on this board or Europeans are so bothered by trump being president.
Nurse!
 


dwayne

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Jul 5, 2003
15,040
London
Out of interest, why?
Because he's not Biden. Tbh I just wouldn't vote.

Number 1)The Dems insist on divisive identity politics, which I hate.

The fear mongering is back as well. Aside from saying a bunch of mean things and having all of his decisions shut down by activist federal judges, the only substantial thing trump did was use his power to put conservatives within the judiciary.

Biden was supposed to be the new hope and what did we get. Something close to a world war with Russia and now the Palestine / Israel mess.
 


Bodian

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May 3, 2012
11,960
Cumbria
Because he's not Biden. Tbh I just wouldn't vote.

Number 1)The Dems insist on divisive identity politics, which I hate.

The fear mongering is back as well. Aside from saying a bunch of mean things and having all of his decisions shut down by activist federal judges, the only substantial thing trump did was use his power to put conservatives within the judiciary.

Biden was supposed to be the new hope and what did we get. Something close to a world war with Russia and now the Palestine / Israel mess.
So - not 'definitely vote Trump' then - but not voting at all...!

Not too sure how Biden has created the Ukraine invasion or the Palestine / Israel situation. In your view - what would Trump have done differently that would have prevented either of these?
 








BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
17,151
Because he's not Biden. Tbh I just wouldn't vote.

Number 1)The Dems insist on divisive identity politics, which I hate.

The fear mongering is back as well. Aside from saying a bunch of mean things and having all of his decisions shut down by activist federal judges, the only substantial thing trump did was use his power to put conservatives within the judiciary.

Biden was supposed to be the new hope and what did we get. Something close to a world war with Russia and now the Palestine / Israel mess.

Where did you get this idea? I thought that right from the start Biden's only real virtue was that he was a safe pair of hands . . . and not Trump.
 


dwayne

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Jul 5, 2003
15,040
London
Where did you get this idea? I thought that right from the start Biden's only real virtue was that he was a safe pair of hands . . . and not Trump.
But that's exactly my point. Despite all the doomsday commentary on trump, the world feels a hell of a lot more uncertain and unsafe since sleepy Joe got in. This may just be coincidence or maybe there's something in it......
 




A1X

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Sep 1, 2017
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Deepest, darkest Sussex
Like this country both parties in the states are as bad as each other. At least trump is entertaining. Also, unless I'm wrong hardly any major conflicts seemed to kick off on his watch last time around, since Biden got into power there seems to be a different issue every week, the guy is a joke.
Can people please stop voting for leaders based on entertainment and start doing so based on ability?

As for the “no wars under Trump” bit, is Biden responsible for Russia and Hamas now? Only they started the two major conflicts currently kicking off.
 


Greg Bobkin

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May 22, 2012
14,960
But that's exactly my point. Despite all the doomsday commentary on trump, the world feels a hell of a lot more uncertain and unsafe since sleepy Joe got in. This may just be coincidence or maybe there's something in it......
You SERIOUSLY think it's possible that the world was more 'certain and safe' before Biden, purely because of Donald Trump? That he has THAT much influence over the world's dictators?

Fack me!
 


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