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[TV] The Traitors - BBC



vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
27,908
Gave it a go last night for a bit and don't see what all the fuss is about, most of the show seemed to be about overexcited people saying " Hello " and waving stupidly as people went in and out of rooms, cars and trains. Surely Winkleman needs her fringe cutting so she does not have to keep squinting through it all the time ?
 




studio150

Well-known member
Jul 30, 2011
29,668
On the Border
Gave it a go last night for a bit and don't see what all the fuss is about, most of the show seemed to be about overexcited people saying " Hello " and waving stupidly as people went in and out of rooms, cars and trains. Surely Winkleman needs her fringe cutting so she does not have to keep squinting through it all the time ?
But the back stabbing, the rumours and theories. How people like on Deal or No Deal are convinced that they are right, when basically it's just a guess.

Having said that, I still maintain that the Traitors should be allowed to murder Claudia.
 


Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,253
Surrey
We know with this show you can't go on precedent though.

No one made Miles give her the drink. He volunteered for a very risky task and came undone.
Exactly. Frankly, it was a battle between Paul and Miles and the winner was set up for the best part of the game and I think both players knew it from the minute Miles put himself forward for giving Diane the drink.

Miles then lost, but that's the game he played.
 


mejonaNO12 aka riskit

Well-known member
Dec 4, 2003
21,505
England
The OTHER bit I wish they showed was a reveal to those who were killed/banished of "Here's who the traitors are".

Mainly because I wanted to see the look on someones face (I wont spoil it for others) when he finds out the person he was basically shouting "you are the traitor!!" at wasn't.
I'm sure you all know, but this aspect that I was after last year is covered on the spin-off show. Always quite amusing.
 


Hamilton

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NSC Patron
Jul 7, 2003
12,517
Brighton
Last season it was a kiss, and they were dead. This season, instead of dying they get to live for a day, and also get told they had been poisoned. Totally unfair.
I think we’re all getting a little too serious about what is only a game. The whole thing is about treachery and can turn on a sixpence in a minute. You live by the sword, you die by the sword. He should have tried harder to implicate Paul earlier and he may have swung the group think.

It’s all thoroughly entertaining.
 




mejonaNO12 aka riskit

Well-known member
Dec 4, 2003
21,505
England
Gave it a go last night for a bit and don't see what all the fuss is about, most of the show seemed to be about overexcited people saying " Hello "
Is that because you watched episode 1 where people meet for the first time so say Hello?
 


vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
27,908
Is that because you watched episode 1 where people meet for the first time so say Hello?
Yep, thats the one, always good to start at the beginning. It reminded me of The Apprentice where the contestants do their bit to camera about how aggressive or persuasive they an be when they do a deal and how Lord Sugar would be stupid not to sign me up etc etc. " Oh I'm going to love murdering this lot " ... " can't wait to do some double dealing and backstabbing "
 


Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
50,226
Goldstone
Exactly. Frankly, it was a battle between Paul and Miles and the winner was set up for the best part of the game and I think both players knew it from the minute Miles put himself forward for giving Diane the drink.

Miles had no idea. He was expecting Diane to be missing from breakfast and he'd have been scot free. Instead, she talks to Paul and Miles is stiched up.
 




Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,253
Surrey
Miles had no idea. He was expecting Diane to be missing from breakfast and he'd have been scot free. Instead, she talks to Paul and Miles is stiched up.
Yes fair comment, although I liked that aspect personally - it would be a shame if it was all too obvious. And nobody actually said when the murder was happening so I thought it was quite clever.

The minute Miles realised Paul was taking him down, he needed to go head-on with him - and the winner was always going to come out smelling of roses with utter thickets like Ross doing their bidding for them.

To his credit Miles did that, but he lost.
 


essbee1

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Jun 25, 2014
4,181
Yes fair comment, although I liked that aspect personally - it would be a shame if it was all too obvious. And nobody actually said when the murder was happening so I thought it was quite clever.

The minute Miles realised Paul was taking him down, he needed to go head-on with him - and the winner was always going to come out smelling of roses with utter thickets like Ross doing their bidding for them.

To his credit Miles did that, but he lost.
Would Miles have been able to drop into the conversation a bit about searching for something in the library, the
night before? Surely, that is within the rules?
 








Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
50,226
Goldstone
And succeeded.
Easy pickings.

Paul has been at risk for some time, he should never have said a single word against Harry.

It's so funny how Paul still, after being banished, thought he was the king. He bowed to his adoring audience before leaving, and said Harry had learnt from him, unaware that Harry's been something of a mastermind from the beginning.

Harry was super cocky afterwards, but he needs to go back to being a bit less confident, or he'll out himself.
 






Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,253
Surrey
Paul paid dearly for his arrogance. He thought he was running the show, and thought he was invincible after the Miles fight. The stupid thing is, had he kept his head down he could easily have melted away. Instead he bad mouths Harry in the car, who finds out and just picks him off with ease.

I used to quite like Paul as I liked the way he was playing, but it turns out he was playing that way because he was supremely arrogant. Probably a bit of a nob in reality.
 




GloryDays

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2011
1,622
Leyton, E10.
Season 1 was way too scripted, acted and produced. Way too much crying and all the cast had talent representation so just broke the “reality” side of it.

I know ppl ham it up but S2 feels much more organic and wild, even if they are a bit herded around by production, its less offensive than the shield planting and actors in S1.
 


Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,253
Surrey
Can we all agree that Ross is an irritating, thick dork, desperately using his mum double-act to stay relevant to the audience, who frankly don't care?
 




ROSM

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Dec 26, 2005
6,249
Just far enough away from LDC
Ross is still the class DUNCE though. He is so dense that light bends round him.

So if you were Harry how would you play this from here? Keep Andrew close, as two traitors on final day will be key. Be prepared to split the money. Pick off some of the quiet ones. Focus on one person to banish each day. Dont lead the conversation of if you do, be prepared to switch at the round table when you see where the wind is blowing amd pretend you were convinved by others arguments.

Jaz, zach and now ross should be favourites for banishment.

Molly, Evie are relatively safe (besides killing Molly will like being the guy who shot Bambi's mum).

Jasmine is one I'm unsure about.

Charlotte and Charlie are both ripe for murdering
 


Gwylan

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
31,365
Uffern
I can't see Jaz or Zack being up for banishment - they seem a bit clued up. It was Paul who was highlighting Jaz and I think that will act in Jaz's favour. Murder, yes; banishment, no.

I think Ross has a target on his back though.
 


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