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[Albion] Liam Rosenior



Greg Bobkin

Silver Seagull
May 22, 2012
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I’ve said it before, but I’ve never felt so helpless as a fan as I did that night. Everything dropped Wednesday’s way, their support was incredible and even the phone lights looked immense. I just stood there, feeling hollow.

But look at them now!

Maybe everything happens for a reason...
 




JBizzle

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Apr 18, 2010
5,853
Seaford
But look at them now!

Maybe everything happens for a reason...

I firmly believe that none of the "nearly men" squads were as well equipped for the Prem as the won that finally did it. In the end, we went up when we were ready to.

On the couple of posters suggesting Bruno comes back in some capacity, Barber (and I expect Bloom) seemed vocally disappointed about Bruno and Roberts going to Chelsea. I'd be very surprised if either ever return in any coaching capacity.
 


rippleman

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Oct 18, 2011
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I firmly believe that none of the "nearly men" squads were as well equipped for the Prem as the won that finally did it. In the end, we went up when we were ready to.

On the couple of posters suggesting Bruno comes back in some capacity, Barber (and I expect Bloom) seemed vocally disappointed about Bruno and Roberts going to Chelsea. I'd be very surprised if either ever return in any coaching capacity.

Let's hope not. Mr Chairman doesn't seem the kind of fella you get a second opportunity to shaft.
 




Greg Bobkin

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May 22, 2012
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I firmly believe that none of the "nearly men" squads were as well equipped for the Prem as the won that finally did it. In the end, we went up when we were ready to.

On the couple of posters suggesting Bruno comes back in some capacity, Barber (and I expect Bloom) seemed vocally disappointed about Bruno and Roberts going to Chelsea. I'd be very surprised if either ever return in any coaching capacity.

I wouldn't be.

We don't REALLY know what was said privately between the parties, or what TB/PB thought about Bruno and Ben going. They're obviously going to be disappointed – no-one would expect them to say otherwise – but that doesn't mean that they wouldn't empathise with his dilemma. Should the situation arise, I see no reason why – as a proven manager – Bruno wouldn't be considered for a job back at the Albion.
 




JBizzle

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Apr 18, 2010
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I wouldn't be.

We don't REALLY know what was said privately between the parties, or what TB/PB thought about Bruno and Ben going. They're obviously going to be disappointed – no-one would expect them to say otherwise – but that doesn't mean that they wouldn't empathise with his dilemma. Should the situation arise, I see no reason why – as a proven manager – Bruno wouldn't be considered for a job back at the Albion.

Maybe, it's just a feeling I have. Bruno has a very long way to go before he's a proven manager either way
 








Greg Bobkin

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May 22, 2012
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Maybe, it's just a feeling I have. Bruno has a very long way to go before he's a proven manager either way


Completely agree. Which is partly why it made sense to learn as much as he can (in whatever time he has) from Potter, who has been fastracked from a #TeamLikeBrighton to Champions League games.

He might not be near the top of TB's list of potential future managers, but it wouldn't surprise me one bit if he featured somewhere on it...
 


Commander

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Apr 28, 2004
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Let's hope not. Mr Chairman doesn't seem the kind of fella you get a second opportunity to shaft.

Maybe he didn't shaft him? Maybe Bruno asked for assurances that he would keep his position under the new Coach and Bloom said sorry, we can't give them to you. No reason why he couldn't come back in the future if that's the case.
 






Stato

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Dec 21, 2011
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62986369

"There can be no doubting Liam's hard work and dedication and he undoubtedly has a huge future in management. At this time, however, we believe the time is right to make a transition in terms of leadership and progress on the pitch."

All smells a bit Newcastle and Chris Hughton to me. Thanks for everything you've done, but now that you've bailed us out, you're not big enough for this massive club. You undoubtedly have a huge future in management - but not with us, don't let the door hit you on the way out. That's football: No thanks for what you did yesterday. No patience for what you might build tomorrow.

I understand that this will probably mean a pretty stark change of tactical approach in a desperate attempt to get out of L1 straight away, you know, like Sunderland did...

[MENTION=12706]mikeyjh[/MENTION] From a fan point of view, is this understandable given the finances? Or do you think that Derby fans could have been lumbered with yet another idiot owner?
 


Postman Pat

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Jul 24, 2007
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I'm another one who would love to have him back. Possibly he could take the u23s while Crofty is helping RDZ with the transition.

Would he really want to go from managing (albeit interim) in L1 to looking after our U21 side?

I'm sure he'll be looking for another job as first team coach.
 


Springal

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Feb 12, 2005
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62986369

"There can be no doubting Liam's hard work and dedication and he undoubtedly has a huge future in management. At this time, however, we believe the time is right to make a transition in terms of leadership and progress on the pitch."

All smells a bit Newcastle and Chris Hughton to me. Thanks for everything you've done, but now that you've bailed us out, you're not big enough for this massive club. You undoubtedly have a huge future in management - but not with us, don't let the door hit you on the way out. That's football: No thanks for what you did yesterday. No patience for what you might build tomorrow.

I understand that this will probably mean a pretty stark change of tactical approach in a desperate attempt to get out of L1 straight away, you know, like Sunderland did...

[MENTION=12706]mikeyjh[/MENTION] From a fan point of view, is this understandable given the finances? Or do you think that Derby fans could have been lumbered with yet another idiot owner?

From the derby fans I know their start has been a bit indifferent. Despite having a new team they do have some very good league one players on it, and some of their goalless draws and losses In particular have been bad. Different to Hughton because Rosenior hasn’t actually done anything, Hughton at least got Newcastle back promoted
 




Stato

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Dec 21, 2011
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Has it? What I'm reading is that he is no longer interim manager now that they have appointed Paul Warne, but he "remains at the club". This was as of a couple of hours ago.

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I guess that those talks will be about a leaving package as Warne is bringing three staff with him from Rotherham, including his assistant manager Richie 'The Bear' Barker.
 


Stato

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Dec 21, 2011
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Different to Hughton because Rosenior hasn’t actually done anything, Hughton at least got Newcastle back promoted

Whilst I accept that getting a team promoted to the EPL is on a different level, I don't think that taking a job that nobody else wanted, with a club with, what was it, 4 first team players? and putting together a squad that can compete at the top end of the division in the space of one summer, is 'nothing'. I know that Haydon Roberts will be there because of Liam's connection with us. I suspect that quite a few others are a result of his contacts too. He's been in the game for a long time and seems to have been liked and respected everywhere he played.
 


Cowfold Seagull

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Apr 22, 2009
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Cowfold
Maybe, it's just a feeling I have. Bruno has a very long way to go before he's a proven manager either way


Absolutely, and let's face it none of us have any idea if he is ever going to succeed as a manager. Just because Bruno was an Albion legend as a player doesn't mean he is going to succeed as a coach or manager too, especially in the heady heights of the Premier League.

Football is an ever moving conveyor belt, players, coaches, managers come and go, their time at the Albion was up, they have moved on and so have we. It's time to welcome a whole new regime to the club.
 


Justice

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Jun 21, 2012
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Born In Shoreham
I firmly believe that none of the "nearly men" squads were as well equipped for the Prem as the won that finally did it. In the end, we went up when we were ready to.

On the couple of posters suggesting Bruno comes back in some capacity, Barber (and I expect Bloom) seemed vocally disappointed about Bruno and Roberts going to Chelsea. I'd be very surprised if either ever return in any coaching capacity.
I always thought it was a good thing they left with Potter, gives RDZ a completely fresh start with his people of choice and not forced to take on Bruno from the old regime.
 




Cowfold Seagull

Fan of the 17 bus
Apr 22, 2009
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62986369

"There can be no doubting Liam's hard work and dedication and he undoubtedly has a huge future in management. At this time, however, we believe the time is right to make a transition in terms of leadership and progress on the pitch."

All smells a bit Newcastle and Chris Hughton to me. Thanks for everything you've done, but now that you've bailed us out, you're not big enough for this massive club. You undoubtedly have a huge future in management - but not with us, don't let the door hit you on the way out. That's football: No thanks for what you did yesterday. No patience for what you might build tomorrow.

I understand that this will probably mean a pretty stark change of tactical approach in a desperate attempt to get out of L1 straight away, you know, like Sunderland did...

[MENTION=12706]mikeyjh[/MENTION] From a fan point of view, is this understandable given the finances? Or do you think that Derby fans could have been lumbered with yet another idiot owner?

So if they think that Liam Rosenior isn't a big enough name in management and that Paul Warne IS, then they may be sadly mistaken.

Yes ok so the latter does have more managerial experience, but where? Rotherham United where he has led them to three promotions, but three relegations too.

If l was a Derby County fan l would be seriously underwehemed.
 


US Seagull

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Jul 17, 2003
3,371
Cleveland, OH
So if they think that Liam Rosenior isn't a big enough name in management and that Paul Warne IS, then they may be sadly mistaken.

Yes ok so the latter does have more managerial experience, but where? Rotherham United where he has led them to three promotions, but three relegations too.

If l was a Derby County fan l would be seriously underwehemed.

I suspect Derby County fans are probably just relieved that the club no longer appears to be in imminent danger of disappearing completely.
 


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