[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

[Deleted member 2719]

If you'd taken a keener look at what happened you'd realise that the Johnson "Birthday Cake" fine was a just a way for Sue Gray / The Met to get out of fully investigating what happened in the flat, frightened of the legal nuance of it being both a private residence and a public one.

It's also probable that a "loophole" in the Covid Laws was fully taken advantage of over Christmas that wasn't even included in the report.

Politicians on both sides know the reality and all the mud slinging is a Westminster and Daily Mail game.

Starmer won that game.

Get over it and move on.

You appeared to have missed the Mirror and 90% of NSC as mudslingers.

Fortunately, 90% of NSC don't represent this country, when it comes to general opinion.

This is why I always look for a wider view and the wider view was telling me some time ago that Boris had tipped it and had cooked his goose, if not burnt it.


Starmer didn't win that game, Boris lost that game, and even Corbyn would have won that game.

 

[darkwolf666]

Why I believe it, is because I see it all over social media, and on here and 95% of it comes from those on the left.

How much evidence do you need?

Your example in calling my opinion SHIT is just a smaller example of what the left like to do, Why?

Where is the anger coming from?

And why can't it be put over in a civil way to gain respect rather than lose it?

My apologies for the abusive language, but as the expression goes, it's enough to make a Saint swear... Well I'm no Saint, and do occasionally resort to foul language (normally on or at the football pitch).

The problem is you keep regurgitating the same nonsense over and over again! Like the MP's saying how Boris gets the big calls right, said often enough, some seem to believe it.

As for your dig at "leftie" comedians - Well for me, I don't know the political leanings of all of Britain's finest comedy talent, but I would hazard a guess they're not ALL "lefties" - you just don't like the ones that are.

I guess also comedy is often used as a means to highlight social injustice, which by and large comes to the fore when their is a Conservative government in charge, as their policies often appear to affect the poorest in society more.

However that can't be said about this current government who deserve all the scorn and ridicule that is poured on them, with their blinkered short term policies and myriad of lies and "alleged" corruption.

 

[Deleted member 2719]

Do you think that’s respectful?

That was put it to prove my point, this sort of thing and far worse has been constant at Boris for years, most people on the left can not say his name without an personal insult in front or after it, most have and insult either side and throw and extra one or two just for good luck.

It's all unnecessary, don't you think


Doesn't it make the potty-mouthed look out of control?

Its like a person walking across a family park with a controlled labrador on a lead against a pit bull chasing down every dog and child.


The moral is the left has bred too many pitbull owners, IMO.

Great for the Tories as the public have subconsciously seen this going on, and the middle ground voter won't want to be attached to these people.

 

[Deleted member 2719]

My apologies for the abusive language, but as the expression goes, it's enough to make a Saint swear... Well I'm no Saint, and do occasionally resort to foul language (normally on or at the football pitch).

The problem is you keep regurgitating the same nonsense over and over again! Like the MP's saying how Boris gets the big calls right, said often enough, some seem to believe it.

As for your dig at "leftie" comedians - Well for me, I don't know the political leanings of all of Britain's finest comedy talent, but I would hazard a guess they're not ALL "lefties" - you just don't like the ones that are.

I guess also comedy is often used as a means to highlight social injustice, which by and large comes to the fore when their is a Conservative government in charge, as their policies often appear to affect the poorest in society more.

However that can't be said about this current government who deserve all the scorn and ridicule that is poured on them, with their blinkered short term policies and myriad of lies and "alleged" corruption.

Sorry need to go out, I will try to reply later or tomorrow morning.

 

[Eric the meek]

As note above, God save us from the comedians.....

As the leadership contest gathers pace, and Liz Truss continues to liken herself to Thatcher, I predict that she will come to regret that video. It's a goldmine.

At 2 minutes in it's all pork - pork, pork, pork. At 2.50 an amuse-bouche with cheesy notes, 4:30 full cheese, 5.00 less pork, more cheese etc. I've resisted the reference to stilton, but 6.00 onwards is best avoided.

 

[nicko31]

As the leadership contest gathers pace, and Liz Truss continues to liken herself to Thatcher, I predict that she will come to regret that video. It's a goldmine.

At 2 minutes in it's all pork - pork, pork, pork. At 2.50 an amuse-bouche with cheesy notes, 4:30 full cheese, 5.00 less pork, more cheese etc. I've resisted the reference to stilton, but 6.00 onwards is best avoided.

Must admit never seen the whole thing before, its a classic, it just keeps giving..

 

[WATFORD zero]

Must admit never seen the whole thing before, its a classic, it just keeps giving..

Still one of my favourites

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[A1X]

Seems all the candidates are banging on about "tax cuts" every time they get to speak. Given tax cuts are inflationary that hardly seems an adequate solution to the sky-high inflation issue.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Seems all the candidates are banging on about "tax cuts" every time they get to speak. Given tax cuts are inflationary that hardly seems an adequate solution to the sky-high inflation issue.

Every single one of them voted for the NI increase.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

That was put it to prove my point, this sort of thing and far worse has been constant at Boris for years, most people on the left can not say his name without an personal insult in front or after it, most have and insult either side and throw and extra one or two just for good luck.

It's all unnecessary, don't you think


Doesn't it make the potty-mouthed look out of control?

Its like a person walking across a family park with a controlled labrador on a lead against a pit bull chasing down every dog and child.


The moral is the left has bred too many pitbull owners, IMO.

Great for the Tories as the public have subconsciously seen this going on, and the middle ground voter won't want to be attached to these people.

Oh, but Miss, they did it first Miss, and worse than I did.

Playground politics. As you may recall, or perhaps you don't want to recall, I am a middle ground voter having voted Tory, LibDem and Labour in my lifetime.

I say what I see, and if you deny the corruption, and embezzlement that has been going on for the last 12 years, then you need to open your eyes.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

This thread has turned into [MENTION=2719]Mouldy Boots[/MENTION] versus the world.

Mouldy, can you, please, without attacking comedians and constructing absurd analogies about your walking through a park and being set upon by rabid socialist dogs, try to empathize with everyone else for a moment?

Here's the thing:

Johnson (note the lack of abusive epithet) has agree, under pressure from conservative MPs, to resign as PM
This means that a majority of conservative MPs want him gone
We know it is a majority since when there was a confidence vote and 148 of his MPs voted against him, he claimed a great victory because a majority voted for him
Almost all of the cabinet MPs who claimed at the 11th hour Johnson should go were supporting him minutes earlier
Let's call them 'the chancers'
Despite all this people are still phoning the BBC to register their support for Johnson
Meanwhile other people are backing a chancer. Someone just claimed that Truss freed 'that Iranian woman'

This is why the conservatives are in meltdown
The whole shower, MPs, 'leader' and voters appear to know nothing, and have learned nothing

One thing you can be sure of, the next tory leader will (try to) lower tax. Brilliant.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Does anyone believe a word of this? I thought MPs' expenses were to cover their working costs not their residence(s)

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[darkwolf666]

Sorry need to go out, I will try to reply later or tomorrow morning.

No rush, I'm sure it will be more of the same

 

[JBizzle]

What will be interesting is how they try and portray themselves as the "honest" option. Almost all of these vipers backed Johnson to the hilt through every scandal, every sleaze accusation and every lie. Worse in fact, they lied for him and with him, side-by-side. That's why none of them will ever get my vote

 

[Surf's Up]

The most astonishing thing about the whole shambles is that none of the candidates appear to see the need to legalise and formalise the constitution and modus operandi of Parliament in order to ensure that chancers, entitlementers and incompetents like Johnson are never be able to run for office again and if they do, to ensure that their behaviour is forced to conform to clearly laid out rules with equally clear and effective disciplinary sanctions for those who breach them. The days of the old boys club approach to governing the country must end.

 

[A1X]

Does anyone believe a word of this? I thought MPs' expenses were to cover their working costs not their residence(s)

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It was as genuine a mistake as the Hatton Garden thieves taking some diamonds that turned out not to be theirs IMHO.

 

[nicko31]

Does anyone believe a word of this? I thought MPs' expenses were to cover their working costs not their residence(s)

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I wonder if it was also a genuine mistake he used a company in an offshore tax haven to purchase the £1million+ estate and riding stables.

The only one I've heard is seems at all palatable is Tom Tugendhat, but much Labour's relief he was diddly swat chance with the Tory membership

 

[Eric the meek]

I wonder if it was also a genuine mistake he used a company in an offshore tax haven to purchase the £1million+ estate and riding stables.

The only one I've heard is seems at all palatable is Tom Tugendhat, but much Labour's relief he was diddly swat chance with the Tory membership

Yes, that was also a genuine mistake, as was the description of his house as a 'cottage' in the video. Another genuine mistake.

I must say, these Conservative leadership candidates do seem to make an inordinate amount of genuine mistakes. I guess it's just sheer bad luck.

 

[pb21]

Does anyone believe a word of this? I thought MPs' expenses were to cover their working costs not their residence(s)

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That's a genuine lie.

Why don't these people just tell the truth, "I arranged my tax affairs to pay the least amount of tax I could be legally liable for"?

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

I would definitely vote for Zahawi. I mean, he's a pretty good bloke to go to such lengths to keep his horses so toasty and warm. Almost certainly he would be well up for helping us out with fuel payments this winter on that form.

And Truss as well. She was bang on about the cheese. Disgraceful.

It will be between those two.