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[Albion] You're the ref: Veltman v Rice

You're the ref: Veltman v Rice

  • No card to either player

    Votes: 99 17.4%
  • No card for Veltman; yellow card for Rice

    Votes: 255 44.7%
  • Yellow card for Veltman; nothing for Rice

    Votes: 13 2.3%
  • Yellow card for both players

    Votes: 118 20.7%
  • No card for Veltman; red card for Rice

    Votes: 37 6.5%
  • Red card for Veltman; nothing for Rice

    Votes: 3 0.5%
  • Red card for Veltman; yellow card for Rice

    Votes: 4 0.7%
  • Yellow card for Veltman; red card for Rice

    Votes: 36 6.3%
  • Red card for both players

    Votes: 5 0.9%

  • Total voters
    570








Zeberdi

“Vorsprung durch Technik”
NSC Patron
Oct 20, 2022
6,244
What card(s) do you give?


A Congratulations! card for Veltman for giving Arse a lesson in shitehousery- best in the League :lol:
 












METALMICKY

Well-known member
Jan 30, 2004
6,568
Now let's imagine this alternative scenario. Let's suggest Rice isn't so dumb as to kick the ball away but just stands his ground. Veltman is still clever and belts the ball which hits Rice and there's no contact with his foot. I don't like players doing that but some refs could conceivably give a the second yellow for not retreating.
 






Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
52,282
Goldstone
Now let's imagine this alternative scenario. Let's suggest Rice isn't so dumb as to kick the ball away but just stands his ground. Veltman is still clever and belts the ball which hits Rice and there's no contact with his foot. I don't like players doing that but some refs could conceivably give a the second yellow for not retreating.

In that situation I imagine the ref would have told Rice to move away, and Veltman not to be silly. No cards. But Rice deliberately hit the ball away, which puts the ref in a really tough spot. 100% a yellow, but being a second yellow no one would have been surprised if he bottled it.
 
















Herr Tubthumper

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
61,987
The Fatherland
I felt the ref could have calmed the situation down, had a chat with both of them, and told them to behave.

Luckily he noticed the snidey flick away from Rice. 9 times out of 10 the (top 6) player gets away with that.

Not today. Ha ha.
Maybe in the past. But Delaying a quick free kick is a n explicit new law this season. It’s a caution.
 








Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,813
Surrey
We’d be seething had that been the other way round let’s be honest.
Agree.

It was all very petty but these things are open to referee interpretation. How many times have we seen players in Rice's position just tap the ball like that and no action taken?

That said, Rice can't really have any complaints because he decided to do it. Next time, just leave it, mate.

As for Veltman, another day he gets sent off as the referee interprets that (perhaps wrongly) as a deliberate kick.

Funny this time but I wish they'd all just grow up, frankly.
 




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