Why does Brighton hate drivers?

[goldstone]

It's about time the City of Brighton and Hove started treating car drivers better.

The cost of parking is f***ing outrageous for a start. It should be free to encourage shoppers to come to the town ... or at the very least a nominal charge.

And the traffic!! The roads are clearly designed to put drivers off coming to the centre of town. No decent clear road into and out off the town centre from the north.

And the f***ing road works!! Today along Western Road and on the sea front near West Street. What a joke.

And, no, I will NOT use the park and ride.

It's the last time I'll come to Brighton to shop. I'd rather drive to Bluewater and park for free.

 

[Fungus]

I think most cities hate drivers now. Or their cars, at least.

 

[The Large One]

Personally, I am quite happy that parking is so expensive in Brighton. It helps keep the traffic out of the city.

Making parking cheap or free would guarantee congestion, pollution and shit.

You're right about the roadworks though. Well ugly.

 

[Robot Chicken]

And the f***ing road works!! Today along Western Road and on the sea front near West Street. What a joke.

I f***ing hate the roadworks BUT you can't blame the city for them. You could even say that Southern Water are being responsible in replacing all the metal Victorian waterpipes with plastic ones. However the council should open up Western Road and North Street if delays increase.

You wait until the roadworks start moving east towards the pier. It's going to take 6 months (!) for them to reach the pier and finish.

 

[Gully]

Use a park and ride, I use one every time I go into Chelts, it is quicker and cheaper than taking the car into the town centre...which I rate as a winner. To be fair most towns and cities seem to hate car drivers, there is of course an upside to keeping them out, it makes life far better for pedestrians and those who actually live there.

 

[goldstone]

Personally, I am quite happy that parking is so expensive in Brighton. It helps keep the traffic out of the city.

Making parking cheap or free would guarantee congestion, pollution and shit.

You're right about the roadworks though. Well ugly.

Helps keep traffic out of the city The city is FULL of traffic and congestion!

 

[Barrel of Fun]

Helps keep traffic out of the city The city is FULL of traffic and congestion!

Imagine what it would be like if prices were cheaper?

A city centre should be car free a la Oxford etc.

 

[smudge]

I don't think people from outside Brighton should be allowed to drive in town. They don't know where the f*** they're going, which lane to get in, where the car parks are, where the rat runs are, etc.

 

[Scotty Mac]

always get the train into brighton unless i am feeling super lazy - its cheaper in terms of petrol AND parking, and you dont have to spend 30 minutes trying to negotiate the citys roads

 

[The Large One]

Helps keep traffic out of the city The city is FULL of traffic and congestion!

And you want to make it ten times WORSE?

 

[BensGrandad]

I wuld never use the P & R it is too expensive because you pay per person not per car.

Wife has just got her Free County Bus Pass so now when we go into Brighton we use the bus from Haywards Heath. One day last week nobody who got on the bus between HH and Carden Ave paid cash, all were on passes.

 

[dougdeep]

I shop in Eastbourne, much easier.

 

[dik]

look drivers have it easy. the true cost of farting around on your arse going 'beep' 'beep' never goes back to the motorist (got I hate that word, brings to mind a dull, boring, slightly right wing radio 2 listener)

If you want to be able to drive and park in brighton just remove the city altogether, that i'll make things easier for you eh

 

[Shizuoka Dolphin]

People that go "oh, I'm not going to use the park and ride, blah blah, I want to drive into the centre of town, blah blah" just seem a bit daft really. What is it you're afraid of? City centres are always going to be a nightmare to drive into. Always have been, always will be. If you're expecting free parking in a city centre, then you're living in a dream world. Use the bloody bus!

 

[WATFORD zero]

It's about time the City of Brighton and Hove started treating car drivers better.

And the traffic!! The roads are clearly designed to put drivers off coming to the centre of town. No decent clear road into and out off the town centre from the north.

It's funny that - almost as if they didn't consider cars at all when they designed North Street, Boyce Street, West Street, North Laine, St James Street, Hanover etc etc. Be best off knocking down the town centre and redesigning it eh ? Then we could have a centre designed for cars like Milton Keynes or Slough

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

Cycling should be the only method of transport permitted in Brighton town. The plans to completely pedestrianise the entire level area and re-route traffic away from the Old Steine can't come to fruition soon enough.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

The road works will take YEARS to complete.

It's nothing to do with "hating drivers". It's what happens when people DEMAND that the water companies do something about the millions of gallons of water that leaks out of the Victorian pipes.

The "hating drivers" option would be to keep the existing leaky pipes, restrict water use and introduce a permanent ban on car washing.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

It's funny that - almost as if they didn't consider cars at all when they designed North Street, Boyce Street, West Street, North Laine, St James Street, Hanover etc etc.

Indeed.

Those Georgian town planners were useless. I blame the Prince Regent.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

And the traffic!! The roads are clearly designed to put drivers off coming to the centre of town. No decent clear road into and out off the town centre from the north.

Correct.

I was part of the team that worked up Brighton's long-term traffic strategy in the early 1990s. The scheme was to shift the balance of priorities to ensure that public transport access to the centre is at least as quick as car access. A perfectly reasonable thing to do, since MORE town centre shoppers get there by bus than by car.

A good Park and Ride scheme in north Brighton was part of the strategy. Sadly, the local politicians have failed to achieve this. The voice of the NIMBYs has been ten times louder than anything the Albion heard from Falmer. So what we now have is a transport strategy that is only 75 per cent achievable.

 

[Mr deez]

I live on Western road and have no need to drive, and so as a daily pedestrian through town, I for one am glad drivers are encouraged not to drive in the city centre.