The issue IS that you view disparagingly teams made up mostly of foreigners, and not the nonsense you wrote in the quote.I've never claimed to support Brighton just because all the players happened to have been born in the Royal Sussex.
I've also never claimed to support West Ham or any other team British or otherwise, so I'm not sure what the issue is.
It potentially offers a gateway to the Europa League for average teams / teams outside of the elite.what is the point of this competition ? Genuine question
In the old days it was far more common for the actual Cup-winners to be represented in the competition of course.It w
Of course, and it was considered superior to the UEFA cup even though a lot of the participants were only runners up.
The issue IS that you view disparagingly teams made up mostly of foreigners, and not the nonsense you wrote in the quote.
I've not written anything even approaching that on this thread.Thank you for covering this point. I'd forgotten.
Well, you said:I've not written anything even approaching that on this thread.
I don't understand why I would automatically be pleased that West Ham or any other British team have won a European trophy.
And I suggested a reason why somebody might have felt that way in the past.
Quite how anybody extrapolates from that to "Sid doesn't like teams with foreigners" escapes me entirely.
It's possibly important to point out that I wasn't alive when teams in the top flight of English football were largely made up of English players. I was hypothetically suggesting that I could understand the logic of supporting an English team in European competitions as a sort of proxy for supporting England, when that was the case. I don't know if people used to feel that way.Well, you said:
"I can see this argument back in the days when 10 out of 11 players were British with the odd Irishman or Norwegian thrown in.
But nowadays? Couldn't care less"
So back in the day when the teams were made up of Brits you'd be happy for them to win in Europe. But now that our teams are mostly comprised of foreigners, you don't care about it any more.
So...from that, given that BHA's squad is now comprised of a large number of foreigners, if we DID win in Europe, then your pleasure in this would be diminished ? Unless I've got the wrong end of the stick, I just can't relate to that.
Non cynical:what is the point of this competition ? Genuine question
Fair enough.It's possibly important to point out that I wasn't alive when teams in the top flight of English football were largely made up of English players. I was hypothetically suggesting that I could understand the logic of supporting an English team in European competitions as a sort of proxy for supporting England, when that was the case. I don't know if people used to feel that way.
I don't feel any particular connection to any of the other teams in our league, so I don't get anything out of them doing well in Europe.
I am entirely indifferent to where our players come from, beyond liking the romance of having local lads in the team.
He’s not as stylish as Roberto.Was fooled by some clickbait YT video to watch a video of Moyes giving his medal to his 87 year old dad. Such emotional scenes, until you see him take it back and put it on his own neck again, just as camera cuts to something else.
Still, it was very weird seeing him (Moyes) smiling. Didn't know he had it in him.
*Just to be clear I don't begrudge him doing that at all, comment is directed at the tv channel.
Yes, I can't help myself. Watching as a neutral lacks an edge. My rules used to be, in order of priority (each being trumped by anything higher on the list):Whenever I watch a game not involving BHA, I can usually find a reason to pull for one side over the other.
This. Plus my Dads best mate who was a Hammers fan passed the other day suddenly, so that was for HIM.
To my mind the ECWC was always the 'third' European trophy but it still had lots of kudos for the winners. All European trophies are worth winning if you've qualified for them and it's only 'Top 6' club or post-1992 supporters that will say differently. I'll be so excited and proud when we kick off our European adventure.Brighton can do very well in Europe next season watching this.
Even though its the 3rd division trophy in Europe, it seems to be getting a lot of coverage in the media.
I think it's been proven that you can remove Leicester City from your FFP-cheat listYes, I can't help myself. Watching as a neutral misses an edge. My rules used to be, in order of priority (each being trumped by anything higher on the list):
1) Support anyone playing Palace, obviously;
2) Support the team whose victory would most benefit Brighton;
3) Support anyone playing Man Utd;
4) Support anyone playing anyone who I consider to have wronged Brighton in some nebulous way, at any time, ever; (Spurs and Southampton for 1978, Villa for Grealish's last minute equaliser, Leeds for their fans' stupid Ben White internet campaign). There are loads of these, some of which only occur to me after the match has already started.
5) Support anyone playing a team that has cheated FFP (I'm looking at you Bournemourth, Leicester, Sheff Weds etc).
6) Support English teams;
7) Support British teams;
8) Support anybody playing any of Europe's traditionally dominant or newly nation state funded clubs.
(5) has now been overtaken by - (4a) Support anyone playing against any of the European superleague conspirators. As City and Inter were both guilty of this and of (5), I'll be moving on to (6) for the weekend's final.