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[Misc] Waterproof stuff that stays waterproof



BN9 BHA

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Jul 14, 2013
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Newhaven
A Barbour Ashby (in Olive. obviously). A beautifully tailored fit, plus - you can send it back to Barbour once a year for re-proofing and any running repairs.

Wouldn't be without mine :love:

I have a Barbour Beacon and do the same.

I’ve been to the Barbour factory / workshop

Always a huge rail of jackets awaiting restoration and re-waxing.
Barbour in :smile:
 




BN9 BHA

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I bought a Fjallraven Greenland Jacket a few years ago and its very durable, if it starts to lose its Waterproofing you can iron some wax in to it and its as good as new. https://www.fjallraven.com/uk/en-gb/men/jackets/winter-jackets/greenland-winter-jacket-m/

I re-waxed it and used it as my main jacket on a winter trip to Iceland a couple of years ago and it performed great.
Had my Fjallraven Greenland for a while now and it’s the best waterproof coat I’ve owned.
 


clapham_gull

Legacy Fan
Aug 20, 2003
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Try treating them with Nikwax before buying new…….has worked extremely well on my fishing clothing.


I went to secondary school with the inventor (*). If you want to use a real Sussex product, that's the one.

( His name is Nick )


(*) 17 years older than us, he came back to do his A Levels.
 
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BN9 BHA

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Newhaven
Wellies: Muckboot (fat calves :oops:). If they'd fit I'd go for Aigle. Avoid Hunter and Le Chemau, fashion over quality!!
Another shout for Muckboots, not that I have fat calves though :smile: Very decent sole and not really like other wellies, I have got the Derwent II which are shorter than normal wellies, great for dog walking in the countryside when it’s muddy.
 


wellquickwoody

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Waterproofing, tricky subject. Often comes down to water pressure. For instance, Goretex membrane is used in ski clothing, and in motorcycle apparel. If you used the ski stuff on a motorcycle and vice versa you would likely end up wet in both instances but for very different reasons.

Ski gear does not actually see that much rain (on average) but it does get snowed upon. In cold mountainous climates this snow is usually quite dry when coming down and when it meets human clothing it just tumbles down the fabric and off again with very little melt. Usually the weittest part of skiing is picking yourself up off the floor after a few seconds contact with the snow. At the same time the sport does require a fair bit of physical exertion, creating sweat or water vapour, this needs to be got away from the user as quickly as possible or they will begin to feel cold, clammy and when examining the inside of their clothing it will be wet. Not from outside rain or snow, but from inside human created sweat. To combat this the holes in the Goretex membrane are larger than those in garments produced for other purposes.

In road motorcycling there is little physical exertion required (unless racing) therefore creating comparatively less sweat and water vapour. The outside of the garment may now be being hit by snow, sleet or rain in varying degrees of size, and more importantly at much higher speeds, let’s say anywhere from 30 to 100 mph. In garments produced for this application the pores in the membrane will be much smaller, allowing less ingress from the outside conditions, but also losing out in breath ability.

We can complicate the issue further with a number of parameters including complete immersion, humidity and wear and tear (footwear is very tough on membranes due to hard edges created in leather by the manufacturing process). In reality there are very few truly waterproof fabrics or membranes, just make the liquid press against the garment with enough pressure and it will,probably get through. In fact the effectiveness of a membrane is measured by filling a very tall thin tube with water with a piece of stretched membrane below, and then measuring the height of the ‘head’ of water until the membrane leaks.

Anyway, more boring info in the following link………. https://www.winfieldsoutdoors.co.uk/blog/everything-need-know-gore-tex/
 




Bodian

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May 3, 2012
13,653
Cumbria
In fact the effectiveness of a membrane is measured by filling a very tall thin tube with water with a piece of stretched membrane below, and then measuring the height of the ‘head’ of water until the membrane leaks.
Excellent - thanks. I have often wondered what those measurements on jackets were.

And as an aside, being a charity shop / secondhand purchaser, I wish they would always put the head measurement on the label instead of just on the disposable tag!
 


Bodian

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May 3, 2012
13,653
Cumbria
Waterproofing, tricky subject. Often comes down to water pressure. For instance, Goretex membrane is used in ski clothing, and in motorcycle apparel. If you used the ski stuff on a motorcycle and vice versa you would likely end up wet in both instances but for very different reasons.

Ski gear does not actually see that much rain (on average) but it does get snowed upon. In cold mountainous climates this snow is usually quite dry when coming down and when it meets human clothing it just tumbles down the fabric and off again with very little melt. Usually the weittest part of skiing is picking yourself up off the floor after a few seconds contact with the snow. At the same time the sport does require a fair bit of physical exertion, creating sweat or water vapour, this needs to be got away from the user as quickly as possible or they will begin to feel cold, clammy and when examining the inside of their clothing it will be wet. Not from outside rain or snow, but from inside human created seat. To combat this the holes in the Goretex membrane are larger than those in garments produced for other purposes.

In road motorcycling there is little physical exertion required (unless racing) therefore creating comparatively less sweat and water vapour. The outside of the garment may now be being hit by snow, sleet or rain in varying degrees of size, and more importantly at much higher speeds, let’s say anywhere from 30 to 100 mph. In garments produced for this application the pores in the membrane will be much smaller, allowing less ingress from the outside conditions, but also losing out in breath ability.

We can complicate the issue further with a number of parameters including complete immersion
Not such an interesting post this one - it doesn't talk about measuring the height of the head of water! :)
 






Sergei's Celebration

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Jan 3, 2010
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I've come back home.
Have worn paramo ski touring in deepest darkest Norway and it was absolutely brilliant. Warm, dry and light. Perfect for living out of a bergen for a week.

Having worn all the others on that list next would be Berghaus (had one for a decade and never let me down), then Rab (slightly overpriced but solid), then mountain equipment.
 


Was not Was

Loitering with intent
Jul 31, 2003
1,600
Thanks @Bozza for starting this thread and so prompting me to sort out the waterproofing on my North Face coat. I checked their website, which said: wash with detergent, rinse, rinse again, then cool/slow tumble try ... and it has worked a treat, based on the test I just did pouring on water and watching it bead.
 


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