was the second goal a own goal

[brighton rock]

was the goal that came back off the post an own goal or waynes goal?
i bet on there being a own goal in the game and could win £140 if the ref gives it as a own goal in his report

what do you think?

 

[Marshy]

Think Eufa have already given it to Rooney i heard.

 

[Schrödinger's Toad]

Talksport has just said it has been changed to a Stiel OG

 

[Gazwag]

Arn't the rules something like - if the balls is on target and gets deflected then the shooter is awarded the goal, however, if it is not on target then its an own goal. As Swindon fans now know hitting the woodwork is not on target, therefore it must be an OG

 

[brighton rock]

Think Eufa have already given it to Rooney i heard.

only the reff can deside not eufa bet has still not been settled one way or the other?

 

[Everest]

Should be an og. If it had not hit the keeper it would not have gone in.

 

[Albionite83]

Arn't the rules something like - if the balls is on target and gets deflected then the shooter is awarded the goal, however, if it is not on target then its an own goal.

That is correct. If someone has a shot which is on target but deflected, it is fair enough to assume the keeper wouldn't have saved it and therefore give it to the forward. If someone has a shot which bounces off the post and is heading away from goal before hitting the keeper, it must be an og because it wouldn't even have gone between the posts without the keeper's involvement.

PS: Brighton Rock, 10% OK?

 

[Gazwag]

Isn't there a panel like in the premiership that decides of the goal scorer using video evidence. After all winning the golden boot is worth mega bucks to the winner in sponsorship etc.

 

[brighton rock]

it all up to the reff according to bbc1 last night

 

[Soton Seagull]

Has to be an own goal. Only Andy King would claim it was on target!

 

[poke]

in the paper today it said it was an own goal, but has been given to rooney

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

i think if it had hit the inside of the post and gone in off keeper should be Rooneys, but as it was coming back out should be og

 

[34064 Fighter Command]

I'd say own goal, had the keeper not been prone on the floor he could have picked it up.

The ball was NOT on-target, eh Mr. King !

 

[nail-Z]

I had this argument with BetHILO as I bought Rooney's goal minutes @ £2 a minute. They settled the bet last night as an OG.

HOWEVER, as UEFA gave the goal to Rooney I thought I'd check the rules.

"In the event of uncertainty about who scored a goal, the opinion of the TV station which is broadcasting the game will be applied. "

So I fired off an email to Bethilo suggesting they had contradicted their own rules. I've not heard back from them yet but I've just been creditted with the £150 winnings!!!

 

[brighton rock]

yep rooney got the goal

 

[Jambo Seagull]

are you sure?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/euro_2004/england/3787999.stm

According to the above it's still to be decided by some technical committee.

 

[Marc]

IMO its an own goal as it clearly bounces away off the post. if it we're going in off the post or along the line when it hit the keeper then it would be Rooneys

 

[nail-Z]

For the purpose of bethilo.com, they use the opinion of the TV station which is broadcasting the game rather than any official source - which seems very strange.

If Brighton Rock used Bethilo for his own goal bet, I'd be really narked in his position. It was clearly an own goal - but ITV showed Rooney as the scorer - so that's how it was settled (eventually).

 

[chez]

UEFA have just announced that it WILL be given to Wayne Rooney. Thats the official statement.

 

[aftershavedave]

i thought it was a rooney goal at the time, but am not otherwise convinced, to be told it's now his goal again!