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[Albion] Vile racist language in the South Stand



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brighton_dave

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Requested thread is locked as this is being dealt with by the club. Thanks for sharing your comments.

UPDATE to share a number you can message if this happens near you in the future. "There is an Anti Social Hotline for reporting incidents - you text location, description and nature of issue to 07880 196442" thanks to @heavysoul for sharing this.

Took my 11 year old daughter to the game today in the South stand and felt dreadful for doing so given the vile language from behind.
A lad of perhaps 7 or 8 behind us was vile throughout the first half using language such as "F off blackies", "I'm going to rap* your mum up the arse", "I'm going to rap* you in your arse", with "you wanke*s" probably being the most mild of trash talk for which there were too many to remember.
Not a word of correction was said by the adults he was with and the language continued for the entire half. I did say to my daughter about moving but she didn't want to miss any of the game.
Spoke with the stewards at half term who moved us and placed someone in our place to monitor the language. We were asked to stick around to speak with the Police after the game. On speaking with the police they advised due to age etc there is nothing that can be done but that it had been recorded. The adults he was with were friends of family and the boy apparently has complex needs - autism. The guy he wad with was actually not of white origin himself which surprised me more. Perhaps he didn't feel comfortable correcting a friends child.
Apparently no such language was heard in the 2nd half and the lad was allowed to remain in the stadium.
I'm absolutely disgusted as this has not been dealt with by either the responsible (wrong choice of word) adults or the club. It seems to be have allowed to go because the lad had autism. I myself have another child with ADHD and would have taken her out of the ground, not that she would know or use that language.
Hearing that for 45 minutes is awful and my daughter could of course not understand why it was tolerated. I didn't say anything at the time and did not want confrontation in front of her.
I get there is bad language, I was a season ticket holder on the North for years, but to hear this is something you don't expect. I also took both my daughter and wife to the Liverpool cup game in the North and there was nothing at this level. She's massively into football and started to get her dad's love for the Albion, but I feel ashamed that she's had to hear that.
Also felt sorry for the Japanese lad next to me who had to hear such racist language.
Not sure we will return anytime soon.

Would appreciate admin correcting the title as noticed the misspelling!
 
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Hugo Rune

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A lad of perhaps 7 or 8 behind us was vile throughout the first half using language such as "F off blackies", "I'm going to rap* your mum up the arse", "I'm going to rap* you in your arse", with "you wanke*s" probably being the most mild of trash talk for which there were too many to remember…..The adults he was with were friends of family and the boy apparently has complex needs - autism.
You’ve provided the context of why the boy was so incredibly abusive. Tough call but would you prefer that he is not allowed to watch games at the Amex?

Personally, I’d not take my son if he spoke like that but perhaps I’m a bad parent for not putting him first? No easy solution here.
 










macbeth

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What if he did have Tourette’s ? Or sone kind of disability
then that is an explanation of the behaviour, but it is not a removal of accountability. I know we are talking about a child here, but that language simply cannot be tolerated anywhere and that is the bottom line for me
 


Springal

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then that is an explanation of the behaviour, but it is not a removal of accountability. I know we are talking about a child here, but that language simply cannot be tolerated anywhere and that is the bottom line for me
If that was the case, what do you propose? Euthanasia?
 






brighton_dave

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You’ve provided the context of why the boy was so incredibly abusive. Tough call but would you prefer that he is not allowed to watch games at the Amex?

Personally, I’d not take my son if he spoke like that but perhaps I’m a bad parent for not putting him first? No easy solution here.
Not at all - I fully imagine he would not know this language if he were your son. If he did then you would be a better parent for not putting allowing other children to hear this. Maybe he should be in a different section for complex needs to be closely monitored. This must not be allowed irrespective of an individual needs. Utterly disgusted...
 




Tom Hark Preston Park

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You’ve provided the context of why the boy was so incredibly abusive. Tough call but would you prefer that he is not allowed to watch games at the Amex?

Personally, I’d not take my son if he spoke like that but perhaps I’m a bad parent for not putting him first? No easy solution here.
Not a tough call at all. That language is extreme and has no place in the stadium full stop. Also needs investigating where he learnt that extreme language at that young age
 




A1X

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Sorry but if the kid can’t behave himself then he shouldn’t be there, and his parents shouldn’t be putting you, their friend and their son in that predicament.

If they were there on the parents ticket, should be easy enough to track them down.
 


Nobby Cybergoat

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OP. Contact the club immediately. Give all the details you possibly can

I'm confident the adult who he was with will be banned.

The police absolutely bottled it as usual. The entire party should have been removed as soon as this was disclosed. The would have been dozens who could verify what you're saying.

My advice is, don't let this put you off taking your daughter who sounds like she enjoyed it otherwise. But that of course is an individual parenting decision.
 










KZNSeagull

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Not necessarily relevant. I used to teach in a school for autistic children and there was lots of swearing. You can’t really generalize about this.
OK then. I'm afraid that I am rather cynical and defensive when I hear autism being used as an excuse for bad behaviour. The fact that he could suddenly control himself in the second half suggests a lack of parental/responsible adult control rather than any issues that the lad may have. Autistic people usually love rules so they should make some for him.
 


Paxton Dazo

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As long as the racism wasn’t aimed at Ronald I would imagine Brightons fanbase (RIP) will tolerate it.

Don’t bite.
 




dazzer6666

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OP. Contact the club immediately. Give all the details you possibly can

I'm confident the adult who he was with will be banned.

The police absolutely bottled it as usual. The entire party should have been removed as soon as this was disclosed. The would have been dozens who could verify what you're saying.

My advice is, don't let this put you off taking your daughter who sounds like she enjoyed it otherwise. But that of course is an individual parenting decision.
‘BHA at centre of storm for banning disabled fan and parents’………

Can’t make that kind of call without knowing the full circumstances. I know a couple of Tourettes sufferers who will shout obscenities in otherwise totally inappropriate places/circumstances…..should they be banned from food shopping ?
 


albionalex

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You’ve provided the context of why the boy was so incredibly abusive. Tough call but would you prefer that he is not allowed to watch games at the Amex?

Personally, I’d not take my son if he spoke like that but perhaps I’m a bad parent for not putting him first? No easy solution here.

Any form of racist language should not be tolerated at the Amex.

I encourage the OP to report this incident to the club.
 


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