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[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...



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Oct 8, 2003
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Rishi Sunak attended a protest alongside a group which has posted conspiracy theories about climate change, and which campaigns against net zero, the Observer can reveal.

The prime minister has been accused of “pandering to extremists” by farmers and wildlife groups, who have asked him to “listen to reason and logic” rather than conspiracy theories.
But....whatabout Jeremy Corbyn? ???

Leader of the Islamist labour party.

(Christ, how f***ing dishonst/mad can people be? Moral equivalence, Lee arsehole, Jezza, all as bad as each other. Luckily Starmer isn't)
 






BBassic

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Laying the groundwork early for them to say their loss in the 2024 GE was rigged...

Criminals and “malign actors” working on behalf of malicious states could use AI-generated “deepfakes” to hijack the general election, the home secretary has said.

 




Hugo Rune

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Feb 23, 2012
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Islamophobia is one of the pillars of the Tory culture war tactic.

It’s very interesting to see such a lack of a pile-on from the print media.

If this was an antisemitism story about Labour, you wouldn’t find a single front page not covering it (as they should).
 
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Papa Lazarou

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Jul 7, 2003
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Laying the groundwork early for them to say their loss in the 2024 GE was rigged...

Criminals and “malign actors” working on behalf of malicious states could use AI-generated “deepfakes” to hijack the general election, the home secretary has said.


Has he just given away the Tory election strategy?
 


TomandJerry

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Oct 1, 2013
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Britain’s stretched public services will buckle under the weight of the spending cuts being planned for after the election, economists have warned, as Jeremy Hunt prepares for another round of tax reductions in next week’s budget.

Experts say the level of public sector spending pencilled in for the next parliament would mean cuts equivalent to those undertaken by David Cameron’s government from 2010 to 2015. Some have warned the next government will not be able to implement them, and will be forced either to raise taxes or borrow more to fund emergency spending.
 


Thunder Bolt

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Britain’s stretched public services will buckle under the weight of the spending cuts being planned for after the election, economists have warned, as Jeremy Hunt prepares for another round of tax reductions in next week’s budget.

Experts say the level of public sector spending pencilled in for the next parliament would mean cuts equivalent to those undertaken by David Cameron’s government from 2010 to 2015. Some have warned the next government will not be able to implement them, and will be forced either to raise taxes or borrow more to fund emergency spending.
Scorched earth policy so the next government will look bad. The Tories can then snipe from the opposition benches for 5 years.
 








beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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Britain’s stretched public services will buckle under the weight of the spending cuts being planned for after the election, economists have warned, as Jeremy Hunt prepares for another round of tax reductions in next week’s budget.

Experts say the level of public sector spending pencilled in for the next parliament would mean cuts equivalent to those undertaken by David Cameron’s government from 2010 to 2015. Some have warned the next government will not be able to implement them, and will be forced either to raise taxes or borrow more to fund emergency spending.
i'm surprised the Resolution Foundation knows the budget ahead of time. that said, what do we want then: spending cuts, more taxes increases, more borrowing?
 












beorhthelm

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WATFORD zero

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the Guardian article copied has that as their source.
Last week the Resolution Foundation calculated such a move would mean taking a fifth out of budgets for certain departments across the parliament, sparking concern among economists, trade unions and even some Conservatives.

I'm not sure a single line in quite a long article constitutes 'their source' (they also quote the Institute for Government) especially when they say at the very beginning of the article

Experts say the level of public sector spending pencilled in for the next parliament would mean cuts equivalent to those undertaken by David Cameron’s government from 2010 to 2015. Some have warned the next government will not be able to implement them, and will be forced either to raise taxes or borrow more to fund emergency spending.

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...e-under-planned-spending-cuts-economists-warn


But it's not exactly unusual for you to leap in and try to defend the Government before backtracking is it :lolol:
 
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Audax

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Aug 3, 2015
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i'm surprised the Resolution Foundation knows the budget ahead of time. that said, what do we want then: spending cuts, more taxes increases, more borrowing?
The Resolution Foundation (and others) are basing their calculations on elements that are already in the public domain. Those may or may not be changed in the next budget; but those elements were crucial in how Hunt justified handouts in his last fiscal statement, so no doubt those elements will remain in place so he can justify big pre-Election handouts in an attempt to win votes.

For the Tories, they'll be looking at it as a win-win: if it works, they win a GE everyone expects them to lose (although the Tories then lose, as the trap they're laying for Labour will then spring on them). If it doesn't work, then they know they've saddled Labour with a budgetary position that will force Labour to reverse the tax cuts and allow the Tories to then go on a "see! we told you!" crusade attacking Labour for increasing taxes.
 


vegster

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May 5, 2008
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Scorched earth policy so the next government will look bad. The Tories can then snipe from the opposition benches for 5 years.
Yes, you can almost write the headlines for about two years time.. " Tory tax cuts squandered by Labour overspends "
 




beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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The Resolution Foundation (and others) are basing their calculations on elements that are already in the public domain. Those may or may not be changed in the next budget; but those elements were crucial in how Hunt justified handouts in his last fiscal statement, so no doubt those elements will remain in place so he can justify big pre-Election handouts in an attempt to win votes.

For the Tories, they'll be looking at it as a win-win: if it works, they win a GE everyone expects them to lose (although the Tories then lose, as the trap they're laying for Labour will then spring on them). If it doesn't work, then they know they've saddled Labour with a budgetary position that will force Labour to reverse the tax cuts and allow the Tories to then go on a "see! we told you!" crusade attacking Labour for increasing taxes.
a trap that could be avoided, call out the cuts, explain how spending needs increasing and how it'll be funded.

what we currently have is spending increases, tax increases, but apprently some cut to services, with no questions where or how that doesn't add up. and that's before any forecast pre-election tax cut bribe.
 
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Kinky Gerbil

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Jul 16, 2003
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Laying the groundwork early for them to say their loss in the 2024 GE was rigged...

Criminals and “malign actors” working on behalf of malicious states could use AI-generated “deepfakes” to hijack the general election, the home secretary has said.

This is good no?

I fail to see any downside to trying to clean up AI use.

Plenty to dig out the government on, getting this sorted isn't one
 


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