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peterward

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Nov 11, 2009
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its on scone (own scone is posh not southern), and cream then jam. you'd not put jam then butter on toast. jam first is just a perversion by whichever county insists on that to be different.
heathen.

jam first then shed load of cream on top!
 




A1X

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Stop these scone / crumb / marmalade / cream puns. We want more fish.
Fish puns are baked in, these are something altogether different
 




dazzer6666

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heathen.

jam first then shed load of cream on top!
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Flagship

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Jan 15, 2018
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Judging by previous replies, it could be scone as in "on"or it could as in "own" and it could be either jam first or it could be cream first. This just goes to show that you can have your cake and eat it.
 






Shropshire Seagull

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Nov 5, 2004
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Judging by previous replies, it could be scone as in "on"or it could as in "own" and it could be either jam first or it could be cream first. This just goes to show that you can have your cake and eat it.
The older you get the more you find this debate just won't go away.
It's a quirk of our beloved English language, let me illustrate:

take "one" - pronounced "w-un" on its own.
Then put a "c" in front to make "cone" said as "co-own"
Now swap the "c" for a "g" to make "gone" said as "g-on"

But hey, put "sc" in front of "one" to give "scone" and everyone argues it either [ooh, is the "eye-ver" or "eve-er"?] should sound like "own" or "on" - yet "one" on its own but preceded with "sc" must surely be pronounced "sc-wun".

I also love how we have decided how to make syllables in words chosing where to break the word up.
Like "TITANIC" we say "Tye-tanic" yet those same letters could be read as "tit-a-nic"
Same for "CHICAGO" we say "She-cargo" but why not "Chic-a-go" - "Chic" being said as "chick"
How do you say "Yoghurt"? Some say "Yog-urt" others "Yo-gurt"
Americans calling "data" "dar-ter" when we say "day-ter"
Yanks again with "semi" saying "sem-eye" and us saying "sem-me"

Ooh, now where was I?
Ah yes, clotted cream on top of strawberry jam does it for me - maybe someone should put a poll up?
 


schmunk

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I also love how we have decided how to make syllables in words chosing where to break the word up.
Like "TITANIC" we say "Tye-tanic" yet those same letters could be read as "tit-a-nic"
Same for "CHICAGO" we say "She-cargo" but why not "Chic-a-go" - "Chic" being said as "chick"
How do you say "Yoghurt"? Some say "Yog-urt" others "Yo-gurt"
Americans calling "data" "dar-ter" when we say "day-ter"
Yanks again with "semi" saying "sem-eye" and us saying "sem-me"

Ooh, now where was I?
Ah yes, clotted cream on top of strawberry jam does it for me - maybe someone should put a poll up?
Titanic is from Greek, so presumably follows their pronunciation.

Chicago is a French corruption of a Native American word, so likewise.

Yoghurt, data and semi are, like so many Americanisms, pronunciations closer to those which the Pilgrims would have used, which they kept and we have evolved away from.

Cream first - it's the butter.
 






beorhthelm

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Americans calling "data" "dar-ter" when we say "day-ter"
Yanks again with "semi" saying "sem-eye" and us saying "sem-me"
ime USians usually say "daa-ta" long "a". there are a few and New Zealanders (and Canadians?) who say "dar-ta" which is always daft in database, switching a in the same word :shrug:

oh and another philistine.
 


Thunder Bolt

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Adjusted for you :laugh:

Oddly enough had a cream tea today - bought from a local cafe near B Hill as a takeaway and taken to my old mum who loves it. The scones (‘owns’ not ‘ons’) were great (contained fruit, which Mrs D promptly removed), the cream was clotted (only allowed option) and went on first followed by strawberry jam. No butter, the cream does the job the butter would - hence why it HAS to go on first. The jam is then dolloped, not ’spread’.

Mrs D, Mum D and I are all Devon born, so know about these things. Don’t listen to anyone influenced by the inbreds from the wrong side of the Tamar.
No butter?
Buttered scone (gone) then jam, then cream.

 






Bodian

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May 3, 2012
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Cumbria
The older you get the more you find this debate just won't go away.
It's a quirk of our beloved English language, let me illustrate:

take "one" - pronounced "w-un" on its own.
Then put a "c" in front to make "cone" said as "co-own"
Now swap the "c" for a "g" to make "gone" said as "g-on"

But hey, put "sc" in front of "one" to give "scone" and everyone argues it either [ooh, is the "eye-ver" or "eve-er"?] should sound like "own" or "on" - yet "one" on its own but preceded with "sc" must surely be pronounced "sc-wun".

I also love how we have decided how to make syllables in words chosing where to break the word up.
Like "TITANIC" we say "Tye-tanic" yet those same letters could be read as "tit-a-nic"
Same for "CHICAGO" we say "She-cargo" but why not "Chic-a-go" - "Chic" being said as "chick"
How do you say "Yoghurt"? Some say "Yog-urt" others "Yo-gurt"
Americans calling "data" "dar-ter" when we say "day-ter"
Yanks again with "semi" saying "sem-eye" and us saying "sem-me"

Ooh, now where was I?
Ah yes, clotted cream on top of strawberry jam does it for me - maybe someone should put a poll up?
When I worked for Nat West in the late 80s American Express (and it's roundabout) was always seemingly 'Amex' as in aim-ex. But it's now 'am'-ex. I still have to correct myself.
 


peterward

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Nov 11, 2009
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No, no, a hundred times no.
Back to the OP and the story of Sarak Merker who tried a Scone with Cream and Jam at every National trust property and I dare say is now a bit of an expert, so much so that shes written a book on Amazon about it.......... check out the cover pic of said Cream/Jam and weep!

I hope the National trust urgently considers a banning order from all of its properties for seeking to radicalise the good folks partaking in the correct manner at its cafes.

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Shropshire Seagull

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Nov 5, 2004
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Telford
Back to the OP and the story of Sarak Merker who tried a Scone with Cream and Jam at every National trust property and I dare say is now a bit of an expert, so much so that shes written a book on Amazon about it.......... check out the cover pic of said Cream/Jam and weep!

I hope the National trust urgently considers a banning order from all of its properties for seeking to radicalise the good folks partaking in the correct manner at its cafes.

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Yeah, but ...

With the scone top on, shirley all one need do is invert the entire gubbins.
Then the jam's on top - five minute job [probably less] - everyone happy?
 




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