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[Cricket] The Ashes- England v Australia- 1st Test, Birmingham, June 16 - 20, 2023

Ashes- 1st Test- The result ?


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Jul 20, 2003
20,492
Wowza.

If Broad, or indeed anyone, get Warner out cheaply tonight I might need a cold shower.
 




The Wizard

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Jul 2, 2009
18,398
Potentially, England may have handed them 50 runs.

They need to make inroads here, because as it stands that decision makes no sense at all.
Of course it does.

Sacrificing another few runs for a half hour at potentially tired batsman rather than letting them bat early tomorrow morning when they are refreshed, there is more value in this than the extra few runs IMO
 










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Oct 18, 2006
25,330
Worthing
It's a reasonable gamble, they would only have managed maybe another 20-30 runs if they batted on til all wickets were down.. two wickets tonight would be worth considerably more as the convicts are a tad light in batting depth.
I hope you’re right on their batting. Smith could bat for all 5 days on this strip if he’s in nick.
 
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zefarelly

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Jul 7, 2003
22,588
Sussex, by the sea
It's like a dust bowl on day one . . .it'll be like Man City FC's summer holiday camp by Sunday.
 

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Eeyore

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Apr 5, 2014
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Of course it does.

Sacrificing another few runs for a half hour at potentially tired batsman rather than letting them bat early tomorrow morning when they are refreshed, there is more value in this than the extra few runs IMO
Game of opinions, agreed.

My view was that it's a beautiful batting track on possibly one of, if not the, best day to bat in series. Tomorrow it should be as good. I'd rather try and squeeze another 50 out of it and put them in early tomorrow.

The net result of a declaration for the sake of four overs is handing them possibly as many as 50 runs.

Anyway, it's all good fun and jolly good that bat n' ball is back.
 








vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,199
I hope you’re right on their batting. Smith could bat for all 5 days on this strip if he’s in nick.
We didn't get the two wickets so the pendulum swings South...yes, Smith could utterly destroy us on this strip.
 


A1X

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Sep 1, 2017
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Deepest, darkest Sussex
Joe Root today scored his first Ashes hundred when Roberto Martinez isn’t simultaneously manager of Everton FC
 








Kinky Gerbil

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Jul 16, 2003
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hassocks
Surely it’s not annoying to keep batting, go again for ten minutes in the morning then declare with 20/30 more runs on the board. The openers then have to go out to field, then back in quickly after to get ready to bat. There’s aggressive and then there’s aggressive for the sake of it.
Root was scoring quickly as well and there at 4 days left, seems mad to declare.
 


Bodian

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May 3, 2012
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Cumbria
Surely it’s not annoying to keep batting, go again for ten minutes in the morning then declare with 20/30 more runs on the board. The openers then have to go out to field, then back in quickly after to get ready to bat. There’s aggressive and then there’s aggressive for the sake of it.
I think I tend to agree.

But then if we'd got a couple of quick wickets, I wouldn't be!

Does seem rather reckless more than aggressive. Root could have added 20+ tonight alone.
 


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Habitual User
Oct 18, 2006
25,330
Worthing
I can see this test match still be talked about in a hundred years.

😂That declaration
 




banjo

GOSBTS
Oct 25, 2011
13,378
Deep south
We could have batted sensibly today and until lunch tomorrow and scored less. Love the way we play now shit or bust. Makes test cricket worth watching again.
 


Sid and the Sharknados

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Sep 4, 2022
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Darlington
Game of opinions, agreed.

My view was that it's a beautiful batting track on possibly one of, if not the, best day to bat in series. Tomorrow it should be as good. I'd rather try and squeeze another 50 out of it and put them in early tomorrow.

The net result of a declaration for the sake of four overs is handing them possibly as many as 50 runs.

Anyway, it's all good fun and jolly good that bat n' ball is back.
Even with hindsight, knowing that we didn't get a wicket, I'd argue that the possible value of a wicket (and then Labushane having to effectively open tomorrow morning) significantly outweighs any runs we could have put on this evening and the first few overs tomorrow.
If we were only 5 down and had a reasonable potential to score a hundred plus more, then it's different.
After the first day of the Edgbaston test in 2005 Boycott said we'd left at least 100 runs out on the field after scoring 400 in about 80 overs. He was probably right as well, but nobody cared about that in the end.
If you buy the overall approach, there's not much point mithering about individual shots or decisions. Nobody scores 5 an over on the first day of a test match without cocking up sometimes.
 


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