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[Politics] The 2024 US Election - Trump v Harris

Who will win the 2024 Presidential Election?

  • President Joe Biden - Democrat

    Votes: 2 0.6%
  • Donald Trump - Republican

    Votes: 117 36.9%
  • Vice President, Kamala Harris - Democrat

    Votes: 179 56.5%
  • Other Democratic candidate tbc

    Votes: 19 6.0%

  • Total voters
    317
  • This poll will close: .


Peteinblack

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jun 3, 2004
4,067
Bath, Somerset.
Wow. So Facebook allows racist tropes. I never knew (because all my Facebook friends are nice).

Into the sea with her.
Yeah FB allows racist posts - and when I've reported offensive posts, nothing has been done; not even an acknowledgement.

Whereas when I once joked about putting bad or greedy employers in front of a firing-squad, FB gave me a yellow card (warned me that my account would be closed for any further infraction during the following 12 months).

Mark Zuckerberg is a ****.
 










Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
55,109
Faversham
The sad fact of life is there are tens of millions of people that feel so disenfranchised by a country with 50% higher GDP per capita than our own, they are prepared to turn a blind eye to anything.

Something has gone seriously wrong.
Entitlement is one issue.

Also.....having visited a lot and lived nearby (Canada) it has always struck me that it is incredibly easy to slip into an extremely monotonic monoculture existence in America, outside the cosmopolitan cities, where conforming to the local norm, and its diet of 'mom', god, apple pie, flag-shagging and fear of 'difference' is reinforced daily by local TV and radio, breathtakingly bland print news and, these days clearly, by the sewer of algorithm-driven internet content.

For many it isn't about whether to vote for Trump. That's already a given. The only question is how bad and wrong it would be if the 'other' were to win. Very bad and very wrong, one imagines. So bad it cannot be true, so it must be a steal.

America is insanely big. The land mass of England is 50,310 sq miiles. The land mass of the US is 3,532,316 sq miles. I can do the math.....wait.....nearly there.....that is 70 times as big. You can fit 70 Englands into the US.

If you look at population, 55.9 million in England, 333.3 million in the US, that's a population ration of 5.9. That means the population density of the US is less than one tenth that of the UK.

A large population in a massive country....easy for individuals to disappear from 'mainstream' life and thinking, and from history itself, finding comon ground with other locals, the neighbours, in a people silo. And with thousands of examples of this all over the country.

Imagine thousand's of Middlesboroughs, Knowsleys, Burnleys, Blackpools, Jaywicks..... but worse, hundreds of miles apart, left to invent their own local lifestyle, led only by the descendants and disciples of primitive versions of Christianity (mixed with frontiersman-style carpetbagging 'upgrades' - the televangelists), the versions of Christianity that were often seen as pernicious by mainstream Europe, leading to the flight from persecution: the Mormons, the Millerites, the 7th day adventists and suchlike. f*** me, what a mess, and what an almost impossible world to reject and escape from if you live there and were brought up there.

We, the 'liberal elite' of NSC would seem very strange and frightening to rural America, and the cities where the populations have been largely local for several hundred years.
 




medwayseagull reborn

Well-known member
Oct 12, 2022
494
Exactly. The reasons for voting Trump fall into a few categories:
* He'll make tax cuts or do similar that will help you personally, and to hell with everyone else
* You're racist, homophobic, transphobic etc
* You're think as shit

If you're denying the second two, be honest about the first.




Exactly. Trying to defend something completely illogical with logic is, well, illogical. And that's being kind.
You might mean "thick" as shit but thinking like a piece of shit also has its merits.
 












Insel affe

HellBilly
Feb 23, 2009
24,115
Brighton factually.....
Entitlement is one issue.

Also.....having visited a lot and lived nearby (Canada) it has always struck me that it is incredibly easy to slip into an extremely monotonic monoculture existence in America, outside the cosmopolitan cities, where conforming to the local norm, and its diet of 'mom', god, apple pie, flag-shagging and fear of 'difference' is reinforced daily by local TV and radio, breathtakingly bland print news and, these days clearly, by the sewer of algorithm-driven internet content.

For many it isn't about whether to vote for Trump. That's already a given. The only question is how bad and wrong it would be if the 'other' were to win. Very bad and very wrong, one imagines. So bad it cannot be true, so it must be a steal.

America is insanely big. The land mass of England is 50,310 sq miiles. The land mass of the US is 3,532,316 sq miles. I can do the math.....wait.....nearly there.....that is 70 times as big. You can fit 70 Englands into the US.

If you look at population, 55.9 million in England, 333.3 million in the US, that's a population ration of 5.9. That means the population density of the US is less than one tenth that of the UK.

A large population in a massive country....easy for individuals to disappear from 'mainstream' life and thinking, and from history itself, finding comon ground with other locals, the neighbours, in a people silo. And with thousands of examples of this all over the country.

Imagine thousand's of Middlesboroughs, Knowsleys, Burnleys, Blackpools, Jaywicks..... but worse, hundreds of miles apart, left to invent their own local lifestyle, led only by the descendants and disciples of primitive versions of Christianity (mixed with frontiersman-style carpetbagging 'upgrades' - the televangelists), the versions of Christianity that were often seen as pernicious by mainstream Europe, leading to the flight from persecution: the Mormons, the Millerites, the 7th day adventists and suchlike. f*** me, what a mess, and what an almost impossible world to reject and escape from if you live there and were brought up there.

We, the 'liberal elite' of NSC would seem very strange and frightening to rural America, and the cities where the populations have been largely local for several hundred years.
nail head, you could have shortened it too.

America is fecked up by the past and scared of the future.
 




Insel affe

HellBilly
Feb 23, 2009
24,115
Brighton factually.....
Have you ever reported posts on Facebook? Nothing is suspended even the spammers.
mmmmmmm.....
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Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
55,109
Faversham
Nope, I rarely use Facebook, but I'm sure you're correct.

The point I was trying to make was that HWT said "Wow. So Facebook allows racist tropes..." whilst quoting a Xitter (not Facebook) post.
Sorry, I muddled that up (and had no idea what you were on about till you explained).
 






Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
52,394
Goldstone
Entitlement is one issue.

Also.....having visited a lot and lived nearby (Canada) it has always struck me that it is incredibly easy to slip into an extremely monotonic monoculture existence in America, outside the cosmopolitan cities, where conforming to the local norm, and its diet of 'mom', god, apple pie, flag-shagging and fear of 'difference' is reinforced daily by local TV and radio, breathtakingly bland print news and, these days clearly, by the sewer of algorithm-driven internet content.

For many it isn't about whether to vote for Trump. That's already a given. The only question is how bad and wrong it would be if the 'other' were to win. Very bad and very wrong, one imagines. So bad it cannot be true, so it must be a steal.

America is insanely big. The land mass of England is 50,310 sq miiles. The land mass of the US is 3,532,316 sq miles. I can do the math.....wait.....nearly there.....that is 70 times as big. You can fit 70 Englands into the US.

If you look at population, 55.9 million in England, 333.3 million in the US, that's a population ration of 5.9. That means the population density of the US is less than one tenth that of the UK.

A large population in a massive country....easy for individuals to disappear from 'mainstream' life and thinking, and from history itself, finding comon ground with other locals, the neighbours, in a people silo. And with thousands of examples of this all over the country.

Imagine thousand's of Middlesboroughs, Knowsleys, Burnleys, Blackpools, Jaywicks..... but worse, hundreds of miles apart, left to invent their own local lifestyle, led only by the descendants and disciples of primitive versions of Christianity (mixed with frontiersman-style carpetbagging 'upgrades' - the televangelists), the versions of Christianity that were often seen as pernicious by mainstream Europe, leading to the flight from persecution: the Mormons, the Millerites, the 7th day adventists and suchlike. f*** me, what a mess, and what an almost impossible world to reject and escape from if you live there and were brought up there.

We, the 'liberal elite' of NSC would seem very strange and frightening to rural America, and the cities where the populations have been largely local for several hundred years.

Reading that, I feel that we owe an apology to a couple of posters here. It's not their fault (note that Australia is less densely populated than the US).
 










Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
52,394
Goldstone
"Right Mr President, she's going to try and wind you up and get you talking nonsense, but you just ignore her ok?"
"Ok"

Half an hour later

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US Seagull

Well-known member
Jul 17, 2003
4,326
Cleveland, OH


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