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happypig

Staring at the rude boys
May 23, 2009
7,928
Eastbourne
I'll be very surprised if he doesn't go inside for this (common assault carries a maximum of 6 months, which would be reduced by a third if he pleads guilty at the first appearance, so 4 months and released halfway through so he'll actually serve 2 months and be out by Easter).
Football banning order for several years (10 year max if he gets a custodial).

EDIT: just to add, reported offences and banning orders have been steadily decreasing for the last few years (source: https://www.gov.uk/government/stati...-orders-england-and-wales-2020-to-2021-season)
 

Nobby Cybergoat

Well-known member
Jul 19, 2021
6,749
It's absolutely a social media thing isn't.

At that age, loads of lads are all about oneupmanship with their peers and they egg each other on. Obviously that's always been the case (I can't claim that I never did dumb stuff to show off to my peers at that age) but social media has massively exacerbated it. They want to be the one everyone in their groups are sharing pics of. Most will be indifferent to what older generations think, so won't care what the people who condemn it are saying.

What they will care about is the custodial sentence and possibly the banning order, though I doubt they considered this much at the time. That's what needs to change. Someone needs the book thrown at them to make people stop and think
 

el punal

Well-known member
An annoying increase in the levels of bellendery at games these days, so flipping depressing, of which the pitch invader is the most visible manifestation. Throw the book at them, idiots.

At the end of the game with Spurs two, maybe three, bellends ran onto the pitch. One was definitely from the Albion section. What was worse was that some of our own fans were cheering him on. Anyway, he got collared by stewards and was escorted off grinning like an inane numpty. The said “fan” got the full El Punal vocabulary of Anglo Saxon descriptions for being the complete useless knob that he is. :shrug:
 

Pevenseagull

Anti-greed coalition
Jul 20, 2003
19,474
State of the nation. We saw similar in the US when Trump was running things. When rulers break the rules, stupid people follow suit.

I remember years back Boycott saying following a particularly rowdy day on the western terrace at Headingley that it was an inevitable response to Tony Blair's illegal war. Can't find the exact quote as searching through a list of Boycott quotes is too depressing.

Personally I think it's more to do with dickheads drinking on shit coke. Horseracing acknowledged this as the problem some time ago (pre Johnson)

e.g.

https://www.sportslawandtaxation.co...fuelled-violence-tarnishes-the-sport-of-kings
 

el punal

Well-known member
It's absolutely a social media thing isn't.

At that age, loads of lads are all about oneupmanship with their peers and they egg each other on. Obviously that's always been the case (I can't claim that I never did dumb stuff to show off to my peers at that age) but social media has massively exacerbated it. They want to be the one everyone in their groups are sharing pics of. Most will be indifferent to what older generations think, so won't care what the people who condemn it are saying.

What they will care about is the custodial sentence and possibly the banning order, though I doubt they considered this much at the time. That's what needs to change. Someone needs the book thrown at them to make people stop and think

What some of them fail to realise is that if they are convicted it will be for a criminal offence, even if they pick up a police caution as a best case scenario it will be recorded on the police data base. This could then have a huge impact on their future employment or applying for a visa. Moral of the story - act in haste, repent at leisure.
 


Nobby Cybergoat

Well-known member
Jul 19, 2021
6,749
What some of them fail to realise is that if they are convicted it will be for a criminal offence, even if they pick up a police caution as a best case scenario it will be recorded on the police data base. This could then have a huge impact on their future employment or applying for a visa. Moral of the story - act in haste, repent at leisure.

Well yes. Very few people who are about to commit any criminal offence are really thinking through the consequences or prison or criminal records etc.

If they did, there would be barely any crime
 

nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
17,488
Gods country fortnightly
Recall something similar at the Goldstone against Orient in the late 90's....
 

Jack Straw

I look nothing like him!
Jul 7, 2003
6,829
Brighton. NOT KEMPTOWN!
Leicester, after Swansea, are the most disgusting, backward and bigoted bunch of *****r fans
I know. F******s the lot of them.

Please can we discount friend of NSC, "Natterjack", a die-hard Swansea supporter who some of us got to know very well during the stadium build, from this catagory. Without him, we couldn't have got a lot of the photos we were able view during the build.
You couldn't wish to meet a nicer bloke.
 


el punal

Well-known member
Please can we discount friend of NSC, "Natterjack", a die-hard Swansea supporter who some of us got to know very well during the stadium build, from this catagory. Without him, we couldn't have got a lot of the photos we were able view during the build.
You couldn't wish to meet a nicer bloke.

I had a fabulous time in Swansea when we played them in our first season in the PL. We were in one of the pubs in Wind Street before the game and one the locals joined us. Sorted out a taxi to take us (4) to the ground, then proceeded to inform us that we should stay in Swansea after the game as there would be “loads of minge and totty!” - all said in the most beautiful Welsh sing-song accent. I salute you boyo! :bowdown::drink:
 


Publius Ovidius

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
45,891
at home
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cot off their goolies
 

Napper

Well-known member
Jul 9, 2003
23,853
Sussex
plenty of social media pages where this behavior is praised.

Lot of the youth not had a scene to get into . Raised on shit talent show music and reality tv.

Wet behind the ears most of them and probably become heroes by raising the stakes a bit.

Far better things they could be doing criminally
 

peterward

Well-known member
NSC Licker Extraordinaire
Nov 11, 2009
11,165
State of the nation. We saw similar in the US when Trump was running things. When rulers break the rules, stupid people follow suit.

I know your tribal political affiliations Clampy, but suggesting these mongrols are acting like this due to Trump being an asshole or Bojo having parties etc is stretching it a bit!...... Theyre just thick as pig shit underclass with poor parenting, every town has some.

Need to come down on these dickheads hard and without compromise
 


Dick Swiveller

Well-known member
Sep 9, 2011
9,137
I know your tribal political affiliations Clampy, but suggesting these mongrols are acting like this due to Trump being an asshole or Bojo having parties etc is stretching it a bit!...... Theyre just thick as pig shit underclass with poor parenting, every town has some.

Need to come down on these dickheads hard and without compromise

TL: DR How dare you make a sweeping generalisation. Here is another sweeping generalisation. :lolol:
 

TheJasperCo

Well-known member
Jan 20, 2012
4,587
Exeter
I'll be very surprised if he doesn't go inside for this (common assault carries a maximum of 6 months, which would be reduced by a third if he pleads guilty at the first appearance, so 4 months and released halfway through so he'll actually serve 2 months and be out by Easter).
Football banning order for several years (10 year max if he gets a custodial).

EDIT: just to add, reported offences and banning orders have been steadily decreasing for the last few years (source: https://www.gov.uk/government/stati...-orders-england-and-wales-2020-to-2021-season)

I believe short prison sentences are being phased out in new guidelines. Restorative justice and other punishments are being recommended instead, where there's a max. 6-month custodial tariff.
 


Neville's Breakfast

Well-known member
May 1, 2016
13,418
Oxton, Birkenhead
What? Bad behaviour has nothing to do with what you describe. It’s all to do with booze, substances, being a tw*t, egged on by your mates and finally thinking you’re the dog’s bollocks with your 15 minutes of fame.

It doesn’t just apply to football either. Remember the pissed up Welsh fan running onto the pitch at the Wales v South Africa rugby match - his actions stopped a possible Welsh try and the chance to win the game. He was named and shamed and in the end had to go into hiding for his own safety. That, equally, has nothing to do with players, managers and executives all living in a different world to us.

Yeah, you’re right. There’s probably a few points here. I was responding to a frankly bizarre post blaming the Government. Separate to that the game itself is disengaged from the average fan but that’s no excuse still for behaving like a knobbead.
 

southstandandy

WEST STAND ANDY
Jul 9, 2003
5,605
Post his name on address on the Forest forum, he'll shat himself and think twice in future

Mr Toner has already been mentioned in the press on the BBC "Cameron Toner, 19, of Leicester, has been charged with three counts of common assault and going on to a playing area at a football match.

He is due to appear at Nottingham Magistrates' Court on 24 February."


He is being well lambasted on the Foxes forums
 

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