[Albion] Should it have been a penalty?

[drew]

So, should we have had a penalty just before half time. VAR decided that it was offside but is that their call to make? According to the EPL website VAR gets involved on the following:- VAR will be used only for “clear and obvious errors” or “serious missed incidents” in four match-changing situations: goals; penalty decisions; direct red-card incidents; and mistaken identity.

The linesman didn't flag for offside so surely the only aspect of the review should have been whether it was a foul or not!

Discuss.

 

[Fred Oliver - Legend]

Dive

 

[Bodian]

Offside.

And no foul either.

 

[Bold Seagull]

It was offside.

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

They check for offside, it was.

 

[Slum_Wolf]

Offside, not a foul and not a dive. His boot touched Allison and then March lost his footing when the studs got stuck in the turf.

 

[Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo]

Surely a missed offside in a penalty decision meets the criteria for serious missed incidents so there is nothing wrong with what the PL website says and VAR was right to get involved.

 

[Rookie]

Clear offside, poor from the lino not to give it in the first place

 

[WhingForPresident]

I was going nuts at the time, obviously, but it was offside and the 'foul' was borderline at best in hindsight.

 

[drew]

I know they checked for offside and that was given (and I'm not gong to disagree that he was offside) and that was the reason for the penalty being overturned (I haven't seen a replay yet so don't know whether it was a dive). My question is whether it is within their remit to check if a player is offside in those circumstances? According to the remit from the EPL website surely they can only look to see if it was a foul or not, not if there was an infringement in the build up.

At the end of the day it didn't matter but consistency in referring could be important. We saw how Mwepu was deemed to have been offside when Mac Alister hit his thunderbolt against Leicester even though Mwepu made no contact with the ball yet today, Man Utd scored a goal when Rashford was clearly offside and involved with the attack although he didn't touch the ball.

 

[dazzer6666]

Offside, minimal contact if any, good decision. Exactly what VAR should be doing.

 

[Weststander]

Clear offside.

The rest is completely irrelevant.

Whilst Sanchez got away with handling outside the box.

 

[Curious Orange]

It was clearly offside from my view in the WSU, the decision to overturn by VAR was never in doubt.

 

[Snowflake]

I sit level with where the offide was. And no it wasn’t a penalty. We all knew it was going to be overturned. But who cares….

 

[Luke93]

I know they checked for offside and that was given (and I'm not gong to disagree that he was offside) and that was the reason for the penalty being overturned (I haven't seen a replay yet so don't know whether it was a dive). My question is whether it is within their remit to check if a player is offside in those circumstances? According to the remit from the EPL website surely they can only look to see if it was a foul or not, not if there was an infringement in the build up.

At the end of the day it didn't matter but consistency in referring could be important. We saw how Mwepu was deemed to have been offside when Mac Alister hit his thunderbolt against Leicester even though Mwepu made no contact with the ball yet today, Man Utd scored a goal when Rashford was clearly offside and involved with the attack although he didn't touch the ball.

Of course it’s in their remit to check for an offside. That’s a clear and obvious error if it’s not given*

*linos are also instructed to not flag for tight calls to let phases of play commence. In this instance the lino could have also flagged for offside after the pen was given. But that’s largely irrelevant as VAR will still check the offside.

 

[NorthstandRacoon]

So, should we have had a penalty just before half time. VAR decided that it was offside but is that their call to make? According to the EPL website VAR gets involved on the following:- VAR will be used only for “clear and obvious errors” or “serious missed incidents” in four match-changing situations: goals; penalty decisions; direct red-card incidents; and mistaken identity.

The linesman didn't flag for offside so surely the only aspect of the review should have been whether it was a foul or not!

Discuss.

VAR correct. Offside, no pen either if onside. If no VAR, most refs give that.

 

[pasty]

I thought straight away at the game Solly was offside so no pen. Now having seen it on MotD it probably wasn’t a pen anyway.

 

[Farehamseagull]

No it shouldn’t have been a pen. Looked offside in real time and clearly so on the replay.

 

[Acker79]

Three key aspects to a penalty:

was there an infringement
was it in the box
was the ball in play


If VAR are used to check a penalty should be given, they have to check all three. Meaning they have to check if play should have been stopped in the pasage of play building up to the offence.

 

[US Seagull]

Silly question. He was clearly offside. And who even cares. We beat Liverpool 3-0.