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Sh*t or bust for Poyet



Withdean Wanderer

Withdean Wanderer

Banned
Jul 5, 2003
23,777
Polegate
1) You shouldn't be able to get away with letting your best player go to your rivals on a free and taking 18 months to replace him. He has. However, you can't get away with signing a player, not giving him much of a chance, then dropping him just as he comes into a bit of form and never playing him again, only for him to bang them in on loan to your arch rivals and fire them to promotion alongside the top scorer in the division that you let go. If Dobbie is a roaring success at Palace, it will be an absolute embarrassment from a Brighton & Hove Albion perspective, absolutely no two ways about it. Let's hope he doesn't.

2) There are no excuses for not getting a team containing:

Kuszczak (Premier/Champions League/International experience)
Bruno (La Liga/Uefa Cup experience)
Bridge (Premier/Champions League/Internatinoal experience)
Vicente (La Liga/Champions League/International experience)
Lopez (La Liga/Uefa Cup experience)
Orlandi (Premier League experience)
Upson (Premier League/International experience)
Crofts (Premier League, won promotion from Championship)
Hammond (won promotion from Championship)
Buckley (one of the most highly rated wingers in the Championship)
Ulloa and CMS (£5m strikeforce)
Bridcutt (one of the most highly rated players in the Championship)
LuaLua (one of the most exciting players in the Championship)
and Ashley Barnes into the play-offs.

No excuses whatsoever. We're underachieving as it is. Fail to make the play-offs and he can do one. Why do you think we're losing £8m a year? He's spent a small fortune on the squad, but at the moment we're being shown up by the likes of Watford, Millwall, Burnley and P*lace. Yeah, so Wolves and Blackburn have spent loads and failed - that doesn't mean it won't be total a disgrace if we don't finish in the top 6.

Last chance saloon. Shit or bust.

With any luck we'll end the season with a trip to Wembley and a winners medal. Although I don't hold out much hope.
 








terryberry1

terryberry1

Well-known member
Jul 9, 2011
5,023
Patcham
Withdean Wanderer said:
1) You shouldn't be able to get away with letting your best player go to your rivals on a free and taking 18 months to replace him. He has. However, you can't get away with signing a player, not giving him much of a chance, then dropping him just as he comes into a bit of form and never playing him again, only for him to bang them in on loan to your arch rivals and fire them to promotion alongside the top scorer in the division that you let go. If Dobbie is a roaring success at Palace, it will be an absolute embarrassment from a Brighton & Hove Albion perspective, absolutely no two ways about it. Let's hope he doesn't.

2) There are no excuses for not getting a team containing:

Kuszczak (Premier/Champions League/International experience)
Bruno (La Liga/Uefa Cup experience)
Bridge (Premier/Champions League/Internatinoal experience)
Vicente (La Liga/Champions League/International experience)
Lopez (La Liga/Uefa Cup experience)
Orlandi (Premier League experience)
Upson (Premier League/International experience)
Crofts (Premier League, won promotion from Championship)
Hammond (won promotion from Championship)
Buckley (one of the most highly rated wingers in the Championship)
Ulloa and CMS (£5m strikeforce)
Bridcutt (one of the most highly rated players in the Championship)
LuaLua (one of the most exciting players in the Championship)
and Ashley Barnes into the play-offs.

No excuses whatsoever. We're underachieving as it is. Fail to make the play-offs and he can do one. Why do you think we're losing £8m a year? He's spent a small fortune on the squad, but at the moment we're being shown up by the likes of Watford, Millwall, Burnley and P*lace. Yeah, so Wolves and Blackburn have spent loads and failed - that doesn't mean it won't be total a disgrace if we don't finish in the top 6.

Last chance saloon. Shit or bust.

With any luck we'll end the season with a trip to Wembley and a winners medal. Although I don't hold out much hope.
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I do agree with a lot of that.
 


Withdean Wanderer

Withdean Wanderer

Banned
Jul 5, 2003
23,777
Polegate
middletoenail said:
Jesus Christ. You miserable twat. That is all.
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Any chance of even bothering to look at my thread and tell me why I'm wrong? Can't be arsed with some of the dickheads on here unable to actually discuss football.
 








Withdean Wanderer

Withdean Wanderer

Banned
Jul 5, 2003
23,777
Polegate
GingerBeerMan said:
Basically copied the thread I made last week, good job :thumbsup:
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Link? Sorry, haven't been on here as much the last week as I was banned for daring to suggest that Adkins (a man with 3 League 1 promotions and a Championship promotion) on his CV was a better manager than Poyet.
 






GingerBeerMan

GingerBeerMan

3-0
Dec 29, 2011
8,265
Withdean Wanderer said:
Link? Sorry, haven't been on here as much the last week as I was banned for daring to suggest that Adkins (a man with 3 League 1 promotions and a Championship promotion) on his CV was a better manager than Poyet.
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Aye, no worries, we just had the same thought and you chose to express it somewhat more harshly. FWIW though, outside the play-offs with this team (baring no injuries) would be shocking from the manager.

Would you consider a 7th place finish as a failure?
 


Withdean Wanderer

Withdean Wanderer

Banned
Jul 5, 2003
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LadySeagull

Well-known member
Jan 21, 2011
1,259
Portslade
I say you are miserable and wrong!

- Murray was not our best player. Some games at the Withdean you wouldn't even know he was on the pitch, he was so lazy and anonymous sometimes (too often).

- Dobbie was shocking, end of story, a yard too slow.

- Our current team is very exciting and could easily be contending for promotion this year IMHO.

That is all. What's not to be positive about?
 




Pavilionaire

Pavilionaire

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
31,694
Poyet brought in 4 players in the last window and three of them are now first teamers, getting better all the time. It's very rare any manager has a 100% success rate. Gus is starting to clear out the likes of Dobbie, Vincelot and Harley, and has brought back JFC. I think we'll start to click and having Upson won't do any harm.
 




Blue Valkyrie

Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
32,165
Valhalla
I agree with point 2.

However, if he succeeds in respect of point 2 and we go up, then point 1 can really be forgotten and forgiven I'd say.
 


dingodan

dingodan

New member
Feb 16, 2011
10,080
Withdean Wanderer said:
1) You shouldn't be able to get away with letting your best player go to your rivals on a free and taking 18 months to replace him. He has. However, you can't get away with signing a player, not giving him much of a chance, then dropping him just as he comes into a bit of form and never playing him again, only for him to bang them in on loan to your arch rivals and fire them to promotion alongside the top scorer in the division that you let go. If Dobbie is a roaring success at Palace, it will be an absolute embarrassment from a Brighton & Hove Albion perspective, absolutely no two ways about it. Let's hope he doesn't.

2) There are no excuses for not getting a team containing:

Kuszczak (Premier/Champions League/International experience)
Bruno (La Liga/Uefa Cup experience)
Bridge (Premier/Champions League/Internatinoal experience)
Vicente (La Liga/Champions League/International experience)
Lopez (La Liga/Uefa Cup experience)
Orlandi (Premier League experience)
Upson (Premier League/International experience)
Crofts (Premier League, won promotion from Championship)
Hammond (won promotion from Championship)
Buckley (one of the most highly rated wingers in the Championship)
Ulloa and CMS (£5m strikeforce)
Bridcutt (one of the most highly rated players in the Championship)
LuaLua (one of the most exciting players in the Championship)
and Ashley Barnes into the play-offs.

No excuses whatsoever. We're underachieving as it is. Fail to make the play-offs and he can do one. Why do you think we're losing £8m a year? He's spent a small fortune on the squad, but at the moment we're being shown up by the likes of Watford, Millwall, Burnley and P*lace. Yeah, so Wolves and Blackburn have spent loads and failed - that doesn't mean it won't be total a disgrace if we don't finish in the top 6.

Last chance saloon. Shit or bust.

With any luck we'll end the season with a trip to Wembley and a winners medal. Although I don't hold out much hope.
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We are taking some calculated risks, but the way I see it we are all in this together, Tony, Gus, the players, the fans. The Chairman is signing players the manager wants and the fans are really pleased with. The players are playing football the way the manager wants and the Chairman and fans are really pleased with.

We are a very well run club with a strict adherence to acquiring quality players within a budget, and we are achieving this particularly well because of the fact that Gus is attractive to play under as a coach.

We are building a new training ground and academy in order to develop, in particular, technically quality players.

We are also enjoying the best attendances in our new stadium, one of the best in the country.

I'm sorry but, while I do think that we do need to find some form, I also think your outlook lacks perspective.
 


Blackadder

Blackadder

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 6, 2003
16,145
Haywards Heath
Withdean Wanderer said:
1) You shouldn't be able to get away with letting your best player go to your rivals on a free and taking 18 months to replace him. He has. However, you can't get away with signing a player, not giving him much of a chance, then dropping him just as he comes into a bit of form and never playing him again, only for him to bang them in on loan to your arch rivals and fire them to promotion alongside the top scorer in the division that you let go. If Dobbie is a roaring success at Palace, it will be an absolute embarrassment from a Brighton & Hove Albion perspective, absolutely no two ways about it. Let's hope he doesn't.

2) There are no excuses for not getting a team containing:

Kuszczak (Premier/Champions League/International experience)
Bruno (La Liga/Uefa Cup experience)
Bridge (Premier/Champions League/Internatinoal experience)
Vicente (La Liga/Champions League/International experience)
Lopez (La Liga/Uefa Cup experience)
Orlandi (Premier League experience)
Upson (Premier League/International experience)
Crofts (Premier League, won promotion from Championship)
Hammond (won promotion from Championship)
Buckley (one of the most highly rated wingers in the Championship)
Ulloa and CMS (£5m strikeforce)
Bridcutt (one of the most highly rated players in the Championship)
LuaLua (one of the most exciting players in the Championship)
and Ashley Barnes into the play-offs.

No excuses whatsoever. We're underachieving as it is. Fail to make the play-offs and he can do one. Why do you think we're losing £8m a year? He's spent a small fortune on the squad, but at the moment we're being shown up by the likes of Watford, Millwall, Burnley and P*lace. Yeah, so Wolves and Blackburn have spent loads and failed - that doesn't mean it won't be total a disgrace if we don't finish in the top 6.

Last chance saloon. Shit or bust.

With any luck we'll end the season with a trip to Wembley and a winners medal. Although I don't hold out much hope.
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Thanks for pointing out our great squad. It is impressive isn't it?

I don't know you and, whilst I appreciate you are probably on some medication, which football team do you actually SUPPORT?

By support, I don't mean turning up to games home and away but actually backing the team.

Once you have told us, can you go off to that team's message board?

Many thanks.
 


Simon Morgan

Simon Morgan

New member
Oct 30, 2004
6,065
Oxford
We are absolute bollocks and if we get promoted, I for one hope Gus has a long hard look at himself.

Whilst the list seems comprehensive, the only ones that look out of place (too good) at this level are (IMO) PIG, Bridge, Bridcutt, Vicente and possibly Buckley. If the others' top level experience is so frigging significant, then why are they no longer at the top level? Chill. Out. Hate is baggage :)
 








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