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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

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raymondo

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Sirnormangall

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I see that next week is the start of a European ban on the shipping of Russian oil. Not sure how much impact it will have on Russia and no doubt they’ll find a way around it, but I suppose it’s something that’s got to be done. Will be interesting to see how it’s enforced.
 

beorhthelm

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I see that next week is the start of a European ban on the shipping of Russian oil. Not sure how much impact it will have on Russia and no doubt they’ll find a way around it, but I suppose it’s something that’s got to be done. Will be interesting to see how it’s enforced.
european registered ships wont be allowed to carry Russian oil, european insurance wont cover other ships, effectivly prohibiting anyone from carrying their oil.
 

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A few weeks ago, the Royal United Services Institute (RUSI) predicted that as Russia continues to lose militarily, they expected to see renewed focus on other non-military fronts, e.g cyber warfare, propaganda etc.
Yes, this would be part of that package then. Sadly the bombing of civilian housing and infrastructure continues to be too - a really tough winter for Ukraine.
 

Eric the meek

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Details of UK ban on import of Russian oil and products...may be interesting for some of us.
Good to see the legislation soon taking effect. Let's hope other nations do the same.

We cannot hope for a fledgling democracy to somehow take hold in Moscow. It hasn't happened for a hundred years and more. But I've always been of the opinion, that in the absence of direct military conflict, economic sanctions will slowly dismantle the Russian economy and war machine. This has to happen.
 


raymondo

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More good news in the tweet below.
We also heard from our relatives living under occupation south east of Zaporizhzhye city... that a 1000 Russian troops/conscripts have suddenly moved out of their neighbouring town, possibly moving south toward Melitopol. If true, this suggests Russia do not have the manpower to sustain such a long front line in the north of Zap. oblast and will more likely concentrate on defending Melitopol and other towns closer to the coast. = more land returning to Ukraine soon 🤞🤞🤞
 

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Gloomy report about the dangers of a ceasefire or even an "agreement" with Russia.



The only way through this as far as I can see is NATO membership for Ukraine when the war ends ( pauses ).
 

chickens

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Not sure on the credibility of the source but I thought the thread linked to via this was interesting:

 

Sirnormangall

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Good to see the legislation soon taking effect. Let's hope other nations do the same.

We cannot hope for a fledgling democracy to somehow take hold in Moscow. It hasn't happened for a hundred years and more. But I've always been of the opinion, that in the absence of direct military conflict, economic sanctions will slowly dismantle the Russian economy and war machine. This has to happen.
Would like to think that someone like Navaltny might get into power one day, assuming he survives his prison sentence ( and any future trumped up charges). Brave man.
 

raymondo

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Not sure on the credibility of the source but I thought the thread linked to via this was interesting:

Thanks for posting @chickens.
I think Brynn Tannehill is a reliable tweeter although of course much of it is her interpretation of the current situation. I have read some similar vibes this week from another source (l forget where).
Her predictions are all possible IMO, and hopefully not too optimistic.

It's good to read info and views from different sources 👍.
 


Eric the meek

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The narrative has changed on Russian state TV. Take a look at this from The Times. It pre-dates the explosions at the airfields.


Two propagandists are openly saying (based on instructions from the Kremlin of course) what will happen if Russia loses the war.
This was before the Ukraine drone attacks (if that is what they were) deep inside Russian territory.
 

Eric the meek

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Now Russian media have reported the attack on the bombers :


It's worth adding that if Ryazan is within range of Ukrainian drones, then so is Moscow. Ryazan is 200km from Moscow and about equidistant from the Ukrainian border.

I recall reading about 4-6 weeks ago, that Ukraine were working on a new type of drone. This could be it, or it might have been referring to the seaborne drones that have confined the Russian Black Sea fleet to port.
 

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