Public Smoking Ban (could affect Withdean)

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Public Smoking Ban, time to act?

  • Yes, Total Ban smoking in Public Places

    Votes: 26 42.6%
  • Yes, Partial Ban in Public Places, allow seperated smoke/non-smoke areas

    Votes: 15 24.6%
  • Yes, Total Ban Public Places incluing Streets anywhere others can be affected

    Votes: 7 11.5%
  • We need more conclusive evidence dangers of smoking before acting

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I sit on fences

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No, Keep the law exactly as it is

    Votes: 6 9.8%
  • No, but prevent smoking like e.g. on planes where cant Segregate

    Votes: 1 1.6%
  • Im undecided

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Im too busy smoking to see through the smoke and read this poll

    Votes: 5 8.2%
  • I would like someone else e.g. the Gov't/Labour to decide on this

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Total voters
    61


Gazwag

5 millionth post poster
Mar 4, 2004
31,345
Bexhill-on-Sea
FG aka Football Genius. said:
if an aircraft was sat next to me blowing out fumes THAT WOULD bother me


I don't think the running track is long enough for an aircraft to land at the Withdean, could get a helicopter in though so you might get one of those sitting next to you.
 




Curious Orange

Punxsatawney Phil
Jul 5, 2003
10,520
On NSC for over two decades...
The law is fine as it is. The proprietors of businesses have as much right to ban smoking on their premises as individuals have the right to choose to be a smoker. Similarly people have the choice to go to places where they know smoking occurs or not, and to work in such places or not. Your health is your responsibility, not the governments.
 


CAFC Matt

New member
Jul 27, 2003
5,465
Woodindean
ben andrews girlfriend said:
i personally think there should be smoking and non smoking areas. its not fair on the people who have asthma and those who dont want to breathe in other peoples smoke all the time

We have got that at the Valley :bounce:

It works too
 


Gazwag

5 millionth post poster
Mar 4, 2004
31,345
Bexhill-on-Sea
Curious Orange said:
Similarly people have the choice to go to places where they know smoking occurs or not, and to work in such places or not./B]


Surely a non smoker should have the right to work in a non smoking enviroment. If we lived in a country with zero unemployment then fine people get to choose where they work but a lot of people have the choice between a job or the dole so where is the choice now
 


magoo

New member
Jul 8, 2003
6,682
United Kingdom
What's the difference between 1 & 3?
I went for 3 anyway.

We all know what harm smoking does to everyone.
Yeah yeah it probably funds the NHS but the government will just have to put tax payers money to sensible use.
 




Curious Orange

Punxsatawney Phil
Jul 5, 2003
10,520
On NSC for over two decades...
gazwag said:
Surely a non smoker should have the right to work in a non smoking enviroment. If we lived in a country with zero unemployment then fine people get to choose where they work but a lot of people have the choice between a job or the dole so where is the choice now

I have never worked in a smoking environment, and have had little choice in where I work. Most places of work enforce a no-smoking policy anyway in my experience.
 


sully

Dunscouting
Jul 7, 2003
7,975
Worthing
I don't see why smoking should be singled out. We get health warnings about just about everything over the course of a year - none of it based on conclusive evidence.

I don't smoke myself, and suffer from asthma on occasions, but like Poke, so long as it's not blown in my face I really don't notice smokers as a problem.

So let's leave the law as it is, shall we? They'll be wanting to ban pubs next!!
 








Shegull

New member
Jul 7, 2003
1,645
On a Bed of Roses
Ireland led the way in banning smoking in the workplace and public places earlier on this year. Its terrific. Its a pleasure to go out for a drink and not come home smelling of smoke. It hasn't caused any problems at all and to be honest I think a lot of people have given up since the ban came in.

Also my son is a barman and the difference in his clothes now they don't reak of stale smoke is amazing - not to mention his lungs taking in other peoples smoke.
 


Nov 3, 2003
1,029
74% say total to all but total ban thanks to all that voted.

Smoking is singled out coz it affects other people like sum mention here asmatics for example, whereas drink doesnt (though excessive does e.g. time of medical profession/police etc to deal with drunk person etc etc).

Non-Smokers rights are infringed if they are forced to breath etc others smoke, whereas vice-versa the smoker is not affceted by the non-smoker. Clearly time for the Albion to outlaw the weed at the Withdean and become totally non-smoking and in any case at the very least all areas of seating and the toilets should be 100% no smoking. Or will we see calls for a smoking section like the singing section? so thats singing now and again inbetween puffing section and voices in fine tune no secondary smoke non-smokers sections!

Yes the Irish have led the way and good on them to be bold and do this, its surely now the Labpour Governments duty to do likewise and ban the weed from all public places.
 




maffew

Well-known member
Dec 10, 2003
9,335
Worcester England
fatbadger said:
"right"?!

why should non-smokers have more rights than those smokers who wish to sit at their desks with a fag on the go?

what kind of bollocks argument is that? if you are sat next to someone who is smoking of course the non smoker should have the right not top have to breathe it if it is causing them physical harm..
 


Curious Orange

Punxsatawney Phil
Jul 5, 2003
10,520
On NSC for over two decades...
Prohibition eh?! While we're at it we should also ban driving slowly, 'cos engines burn less cleanly at low revs, and I for one don't want those very nasty fumes polluting the air around our schools.

PS. I find it ironic that we find it acceptable to poison everyone by having petrol engined vehicles running too slowly, rather than just having the occasional person run over.
 
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Curious Orange

Punxsatawney Phil
Jul 5, 2003
10,520
On NSC for over two decades...
maffew said:
what kind of bollocks argument is that? if you are sat next to someone who is smoking of course the non smoker should have the right not top have to breathe it if it is causing them physical harm..

Ah, but whether you can smoke at any premises is a decision of the proprietor, not the individual.
 




Eddie the Seagull

New member
Jul 6, 2003
2,214
Crowborough
FG aka Football Genius. said:
poke you say doesnt bother you but the overwhelming evidence says it IS bothering you i.e. secondary smoke IS affecting the health of others. Im sure the time will come when football grounds Withdean included will ban smoking take Cardiff for example did anyone actullay have a problem not being allowed to smoke in their seats? If they did they must have a very very serious addiction to not last 45 mins without one!

I smoked at least 4 ciggies at Cardiff & there were two stewards just a couple of feet away!

Happy days...........:smokin:
 


It is an unfortunate fact that I have to breathe in and smell of other people's smoke if I fancy a beer. I, for one, will be glad if we follow the Calfornia route. Seperate places (generally sectioned off area outside) for smokers), and a smoke free environment to enjoy a drink or a meal.

It also seems very harsh on pub staff that in order to earn their crust they have to passive smoke.
 


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