[Football] Police to 'visit 1,000 homes' in MASSIVE crackdown on illegal Premier League streaming

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Will they have DETECTOR VANS?

 

[Brovion]

Your looking at this from a simplistic Sky view… do you work for them??

Sky can keep all their monthly subscription for people who want to watch Bournemouth v Brentford…

I’m suggesting an add on or different payment for a specific team..

As I said EFL have ifollow why can’t EPL have the same ?

Eh? I'm looking at it from a fan's view. And no I don't work for them (seeing as I'm in favour of supposedly illegal streaming I'd have thought it was pretty obvious that I don't work for any sports broadcaster).

 

[Rookie]

No.

One of the chaps was jailed for hosting an online streaming website called IPTV, and the other was jailed for sharing his Netflix password with over a thousand people....

As far as I'm aware, there is nothing in UK law that makes receiving a football stream illegal.

It is a breach of copyright. The premier league logo is copyrighted (not the game itself I think) and viewing that without a licence, outside of the jurisdiction where the broadcast is authorised, is a offence.

My issue is what the police are doing getting involved as I think (stand to be corrected) is that copyright infringement is a civil matter.

 

[Swansman]

Seems a bit unhealthy to allow commercial interest to have an impact on police priorities.

 

[Triggaaar]

Asking for a friend, but 'Fake Taxi' is all above board isn't it?

Do you mean watching it, or attempting it?

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

I would suggest that the only ones having a knock on the door are those hosting stuff or those showing footie on screens dotted around their pub.

They are not going after the normal man on the street. I would add those of us that already subscribe to Sky, BT and Amazon are very unlikely to be contacted.

 

[dwayne]

Once or twice a year the premier League plant these fake scare stories in the press to scare a few .....

 

[hart's shirt]

If they knock on the door and you have been watching a game, what is the maximum fine/imprisonment?

The most serious offenders will be forced to attend Chelsea games in person.

 

[Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo]

Your looking at this from a simplistic Sky view… do you work for them??

Sky can keep all their monthly subscription for people who want to watch Bournemouth v Brentford…

I’m suggesting an add on or different payment for a specific team..

As I said EFL have ifollow why can’t EPL have the same ?

That would change the money available to Sky though and probably reduce the money clubs receive from TV rights. I probably wouldn't pay for Sky if I could pay the club directly for access to matches.

The only way the two could work in tandem would be for Sky and other broadcasters to continue to cherry pick matches for their packages and then clubs can stream the matches that aren't on TV domestically via their own service. Although clubs may be reluctant to go down that road if they fear it could have an effect on live attendances.

 

[Chinman3000]

I'm convinced this story is complete rubbish and probably paid for by Sky/BT etc. Their talk of 'cutting edge digital tactics' stinks of modern day 'detector van' propaganda that was well establish lies.

Id wager they have very limited (if at all) ability to know who's streaming and who isn't, especially to any sort of evidential value, there's very little chance they could secure a prosecution for an individual doing so, they'd need a warrant to actually come without your permission (which they wont have the evidence to get), and they do not have the resource to doing this kind of policing.

 

[Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo]

It is a breach of copyright. The premier league logo is copyrighted (not the game itself I think) and viewing that without a licence, outside of the jurisdiction where the broadcast is authorised, is a offence.

My issue is what the police are doing getting involved as I think (stand to be corrected) is that copyright infringement is a civil matter.

Is infringement of copyright a criminal offence?​

Deliberate infringement of copyright may be a criminal offence. Pursuing the criminals (e.g. when pirate or counterfeit copies of CDs/DVDs etc are being made, distributed or sold) can involve the police or trading standards departments.

Intellectual Property Crime | The Crown Prosecution Service

www.cps.gov.uk

They are much more likely to go after those selling the fire-sticks or hosting and providing access to the streams than those sat at home watching Wolves vs Fulham on a Saturday afternoon.

 

[Lenny Rider]

Do you mean watching it, or attempting it?

What on my meta quest VR set?

 

[Rookie]

Is infringement of copyright a criminal offence?​

Deliberate infringement of copyright may be a criminal offence. Pursuing the criminals (e.g. when pirate or counterfeit copies of CDs/DVDs etc are being made, distributed or sold) can involve the police or trading standards departments.

Intellectual Property Crime | The Crown Prosecution Service

www.cps.gov.uk

They are much more likely to go after those selling the fire-sticks or hosting and providing access to the streams than those sat at home watching Wolves vs Fulham on a Saturday afternoon.

Well there we go. So civil and criminal offence

Is infringement of copyright a criminal offence?​

Deliberate infringement of copyright may be a criminal offence. Pursuing the criminals (e.g. when pirate or counterfeit copies of CDs/DVDs etc are being made, distributed or sold) can involve the police or trading standards departments.

Intellectual Property Crime | The Crown Prosecution Service

www.cps.gov.uk

They are much more likely to go after those selling the fire-sticks or hosting and providing access to the streams than those sat at home watching Wolves vs Fulham on a Saturday afternoon.

well there we go, civil and criminal offence.

 

[Horses Arse]

The issue that I have with this is...hang on, doorbell

 

[happypig]

I used to sign entry warrants. I've signed them for drugs, firearms, utilities, mental health and sundry other things. During training it's made clear that it's hugely invasive and not something to be taken lightly. "Fishing trips" aren't allowed, there has to be reliable intelligence; I have refused to sign them when I didn't feel the reasons were good enough.
A police officer turning up at court asking for an entry warrant because "someone there is watching an unlicensed broadcast" would get short shrift from most magistrates.

 

[WATFORD zero]

 

[Dick Swiveller]

I'll ask the question once more as I was scoffed at by the biggest advocate and yet, here it is again in the Mirror article. IPTV services are widely linked to fraud, money laundering and organised crime. If you don't believe that then who do you all think you are giving your money to? Some bloke in his bedroom who has the ability to stream thousands of channels? I doubt the people doing the ordinary streams are raising money for the RSPCA but if you avoid the malware, they gets fractions of a penny of ad revenue.

 

[southstandandy]

All very strange given that with just a few clicks you can find any match online whenever you want. Even the Middlesbrough game was accessible with just 3 clicks of my mouse. It's so simple to access on line that the authorities potentially trying to visit 1000 homes is like putting your finger in the Hoover Dam to plug a leak.

What is the point?

 

[Mustafa II]

All very strange given that with just a few clicks you can find any match online whenever you want. Even the Middlesbrough game was accessible with just 3 clicks of my mouse. It's so simple to access on line that the authorities potentially trying to visit 1000 homes is like putting your finger in the Hoover Dam to plug a leak.

What is the point?

It seems to be easier than ever.

There was a spell a few years ago where they started taking down all the streaming sites... the next day Reddit Soccer Streams popped up, which lasted a year or two... then that got taken down.

Now there are hundreds more Reddit Soccer Streams lookalikes, all easily findable through Google. On every clubs forums people are openly sharing links to streams now.

The Premier League / Sky have to surely admit that they have lost this battle? Like others have mentioned on this thread, surely it would be a win for all if they introduced a paid service to allow football fans to watch the games that are not televised here, but are in other parts of the world?

It's actually quite bonkers, because it is continues like this, people will end up scrapping their Sky subscriptions.

 

[Weststander]

I recall the threats to prosecute folk recording R1 shows/tracks onto cassette.

Sounds desperate, as they can’t catch the people in the UK and overseas facilitating the whole thing.