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[Albion] PBOBE to join Roberto De Zerbi for his post-Man Utd press conference



Cheshire Cat

The most curious thing..
how do we avoid selling our top talent, you don't seem to have put any thought into your post
Do we have any top talent worth selling?
 








Stato

Well-known member
Dec 21, 2011
6,859
Not the press conference, but RDZ's after match thoughts:


That's classy. I'll miss him. It's a shame it had to end, but it had to end.

Reading between the lines, and taking into account the comments he has previously made about transfers not being his business, Barco not being ready etc. I'm getting the impression that 'my way' to him doesn't necessarily mean spending loads, but it does mean fundamentally having more say in who is signed. Brighton's way seems to be that for all intents and purposes, the data identifies the players and the manager is given them and asked to coach them. That's our USP: work different, because otherwise we can't compete on the uneven financial playing field. That model had developed the team he was happy to come and work with.

We were unwilling/unable to change the model to allow him the control that he's after, because the model requires that, in the event of one person leaving, the wider machine must still function. It cannot contain a coach who wants the level of control that he seems to require because there is a good chance that a successful performer in that role will move on relatively quickly from a club with our resources. It's my impression that RDZ wants Ferguson levels of control over all aspects of the playing side. That's harder to find in modern football because these monolithic businesses cannot risk that. Even if the model is successful, when that person goes, they risk becoming today's Man Utd.

It seems that we tried to accommodate him because he is a remarkable coach, but we just couldn't. He may struggle to find a club at the top level that can. One with unlimited resources might have more chance. I kind of hope he does, because he will probably produce something incredible. However, I can't hope that he finds such a club in this country. It would hurt too much being too close to it and I have no love for any of those at which it might work.

Our model remains. We will sign youth and will look for another coach who can develop and inspire. We will employ experience to balance and to help teach. It's less romantic than the maverick telling us that we can do it and dragging us all to glory with his belief, but it's a long term plan that requires that no individual is bigger than the group. We leapt and touched the stars and it was magnificent, but we now have to get back to building the stairs.
 


Terry Butcher Tribute Act

Well-known member
Aug 18, 2013
3,338
Astounded that Barber is getting criticism. Last time I checked it wasn't Barber who was touting himself for bigger jobs.

People need to get their houses in order. Trust that Barber and Bloom know what they're doing. They clearly think that his personality is detrimental to our objectives and if he doesn't get what he wants then he would have thrown his toys out the pram, again, next season. He does this at the start of a season, then we are in a relegation battle from game one, once you throw your owner and payers under a bus, it's hard to get that support back. Personally I think they have made the correct decision.
Astounding that you think a man who has said we've been unlucky with injuries and needed to sign more players in January has been "touting himself for bigger jobs", but the guy who has been telling every tv, radio, podcast, website, newspaper etc for the last 5 years what a well run club we are (that he runs), is not 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
 




KZNSeagull

Well-known member
Nov 26, 2007
20,120
Wolsingham, County Durham
That's classy. I'll miss him. It's a shame it had to end, but it had to end.

Reading between the lines, and taking into account the comments he has previously made about transfers not being his business, Barco not being ready etc. I'm getting the impression that 'my way' to him doesn't necessarily mean spending loads, but it does mean fundamentally having more say in who is signed. Brighton's way seems to be that for all intents and purposes, the data identifies the players and the manager is given them and asked to coach them. That's our USP: work different, because otherwise we can't compete on the uneven financial playing field. That model had developed the team he was happy to come and work with.

We were unwilling/unable to change the model to allow him the control that he's after, because the model requires that, in the event of one person leaving, the wider machine must still function. It cannot contain a coach who wants the level of control that he seems to require because there is a good chance that a successful performer in that role will move on relatively quickly from a club with our resources. It's my impression that RDZ wants Ferguson levels of control over all aspects of the playing side. That's harder to find in modern football because these monolithic businesses cannot risk that. Even if the model is successful, when that person goes, they risk becoming today's Man Utd.

It seems that we tried to accommodate him because he is a remarkable coach, but we just couldn't. He may struggle to find a club at the top level that can. One with unlimited resources might have more chance. I kind of hope he does, because he will probably produce something incredible. However, I can't hope that he finds such a club in this country. It would hurt too much being too close to it and I have no love for any of those at which it might work.

Our model remains. We will sign youth and will look for another coach who can develop and inspire. We will employ experience to balance and to help teach. It's less romantic than the maverick telling us that we can do it and dragging us all to glory with his belief, but it's a long term plan that requires that no individual is bigger than the group. We leapt and touched the stars and it was magnificent, but we now have to get back to building the stairs.
Sounds spot on to me.
 










scoobiewhite

Well-known member
Jan 29, 2012
429
Albourne / Brighton
That's classy. I'll miss him. It's a shame it had to end, but it had to end.

Reading between the lines, and taking into account the comments he has previously made about transfers not being his business, Barco not being ready etc. I'm getting the impression that 'my way' to him doesn't necessarily mean spending loads, but it does mean fundamentally having more say in who is signed. Brighton's way seems to be that for all intents and purposes, the data identifies the players and the manager is given them and asked to coach them. That's our USP: work different, because otherwise we can't compete on the uneven financial playing field. That model had developed the team he was happy to come and work with.

We were unwilling/unable to change the model to allow him the control that he's after, because the model requires that, in the event of one person leaving, the wider machine must still function. It cannot contain a coach who wants the level of control that he seems to require because there is a good chance that a successful performer in that role will move on relatively quickly from a club with our resources. It's my impression that RDZ wants Ferguson levels of control over all aspects of the playing side. That's harder to find in modern football because these monolithic businesses cannot risk that. Even if the model is successful, when that person goes, they risk becoming today's Man Utd.

It seems that we tried to accommodate him because he is a remarkable coach, but we just couldn't. He may struggle to find a club at the top level that can. One with unlimited resources might have more chance. I kind of hope he does, because he will probably produce something incredible. However, I can't hope that he finds such a club in this country. It would hurt too much being too close to it and I have no love for any of those at which it might work.

Our model remains. We will sign youth and will look for another coach who can develop and inspire. We will employ experience to balance and to help teach. It's less romantic than the maverick telling us that we can do it and dragging us all to glory with his belief, but it's a long term plan that requires that no individual is bigger than the group. We leapt and touched the stars and it was magnificent, but we now have to get back to building the stairs.
Great post!

Im an emotional kind of person so at times like this I need this kind of balanced thinking, especially the comment.... 'It's less romantic than the maverick telling us that we can do it and dragging us all to glory with his belief, but it's a long term plan that requires that no individual is bigger than the group'.

This is why we are so lucky to have calm and clear thinkers like Uncle Tony and PBOBE in charge.
 


A1X

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Sep 1, 2017
18,634
Deepest, darkest Sussex
Not the press conference, but RDZ's after match thoughts:


For all that he and Bloom / Barber may not have seen eye to eye on things, especially recently, it’s fair to say that Roberto (unlike his predecessor) always seems to have loved us as fans and we (with a very few exceptions) have loved him.
 




StonehamPark

#Brighton-Nil
Oct 30, 2010
9,867
BC, Canada
That's classy. I'll miss him. It's a shame it had to end, but it had to end.

Reading between the lines, and taking into account the comments he has previously made about transfers not being his business, Barco not being ready etc. I'm getting the impression that 'my way' to him doesn't necessarily mean spending loads, but it does mean fundamentally having more say in who is signed. Brighton's way seems to be that for all intents and purposes, the data identifies the players and the manager is given them and asked to coach them. That's our USP: work different, because otherwise we can't compete on the uneven financial playing field. That model had developed the team he was happy to come and work with.

We were unwilling/unable to change the model to allow him the control that he's after, because the model requires that, in the event of one person leaving, the wider machine must still function. It cannot contain a coach who wants the level of control that he seems to require because there is a good chance that a successful performer in that role will move on relatively quickly from a club with our resources. It's my impression that RDZ wants Ferguson levels of control over all aspects of the playing side. That's harder to find in modern football because these monolithic businesses cannot risk that. Even if the model is successful, when that person goes, they risk becoming today's Man Utd.

It seems that we tried to accommodate him because he is a remarkable coach, but we just couldn't. He may struggle to find a club at the top level that can. One with unlimited resources might have more chance. I kind of hope he does, because he will probably produce something incredible. However, I can't hope that he finds such a club in this country. It would hurt too much being too close to it and I have no love for any of those at which it might work.

Our model remains. We will sign youth and will look for another coach who can develop and inspire. We will employ experience to balance and to help teach. It's less romantic than the maverick telling us that we can do it and dragging us all to glory with his belief, but it's a long term plan that requires that no individual is bigger than the group. We leapt and touched the stars and it was magnificent, but we now have to get back to building the stairs.
Beautiful post.
 








Greg Bobkin

Silver Seagull
May 22, 2012
15,112
Astounding that you think a man who has said we've been unlucky with injuries and needed to sign more players in January has been "touting himself for bigger jobs", but the guy who has been telling every tv, radio, podcast, website, newspaper etc for the last 5 years what a well run club we are (that he runs), is not 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The guy who has been at the club for over a decade and signed a new long-term contract? He's touting himself to people for a job, is he?

Yeah, OK then!
 


Klaas

I've changed this
Nov 1, 2017
2,583
That's classy. I'll miss him. It's a shame it had to end, but it had to end.

Reading between the lines, and taking into account the comments he has previously made about transfers not being his business, Barco not being ready etc. I'm getting the impression that 'my way' to him doesn't necessarily mean spending loads, but it does mean fundamentally having more say in who is signed. Brighton's way seems to be that for all intents and purposes, the data identifies the players and the manager is given them and asked to coach them. That's our USP: work different, because otherwise we can't compete on the uneven financial playing field. That model had developed the team he was happy to come and work with.

We were unwilling/unable to change the model to allow him the control that he's after, because the model requires that, in the event of one person leaving, the wider machine must still function. It cannot contain a coach who wants the level of control that he seems to require because there is a good chance that a successful performer in that role will move on relatively quickly from a club with our resources. It's my impression that RDZ wants Ferguson levels of control over all aspects of the playing side. That's harder to find in modern football because these monolithic businesses cannot risk that. Even if the model is successful, when that person goes, they risk becoming today's Man Utd.

It seems that we tried to accommodate him because he is a remarkable coach, but we just couldn't. He may struggle to find a club at the top level that can. One with unlimited resources might have more chance. I kind of hope he does, because he will probably produce something incredible. However, I can't hope that he finds such a club in this country. It would hurt too much being too close to it and I have no love for any of those at which it might work.

Our model remains. We will sign youth and will look for another coach who can develop and inspire. We will employ experience to balance and to help teach. It's less romantic than the maverick telling us that we can do it and dragging us all to glory with his belief, but it's a long term plan that requires that no individual is bigger than the group. We leapt and touched the stars and it was magnificent, but we now have to get back to building the stairs.
Lovely stuff. I feel like both parties have an enormous amount of respect for each other, just, they both want to do things differently and won't budge.
 


Solid at the back

Well-known member
Sep 1, 2010
2,675
Glorious Shoreham by Sea
Astounding that you think a man who has said we've been unlucky with injuries and needed to sign more players in January has been "touting himself for bigger jobs", but the guy who has been telling every tv, radio, podcast, website, newspaper etc for the last 5 years what a well run club we are (that he runs), is not 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Barber has just signed a new contract and been here yonks. What are you on about?
 








Solid at the back

Well-known member
Sep 1, 2010
2,675
Glorious Shoreham by Sea
That the ex-manager hasn't been touting himself for jobs.

But that's garbage though. He could have shut down rumours plenty of times, he decided not to. He should have said that hisnfocus was on this season. There are multiple reports that his agents met other clubs, recently having an 8 hour meeting with Bayern Munich.
 


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