OT - Poetic Justice ? - Paedophile priest killed in jail - From BBC

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bhaexpress

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John Geoghan was believed to have attacked more than 130 children
A former priest convicted of child sex abuse has been killed in prison in the United States.
John Geoghan, a central figure in the Catholic Church's abuse scandal in Boston, was injured in an incident with another inmate at the Souza-Baranowski Correction Center, in Shirley, Massachusetts, according to jail officials.

He died shortly after being taken to Leominster Hospital. Authorities say Geoghan appeared to have been strangled and fellow prisoner Joseph Druce, serving a life sentence, will face murder charges in relation to the death.

Department of Correction spokeswoman Kelly Nantel said Geoghan had been held in protective custody to shield him from the general prison population, but he still had some contact with other inmates.

She said the incident was under investigation, but declined to give further details.

The former priest, 67, was given a six-year prison sentence last year for molesting a 10-year-old boy.

The BBC's Jane Standley in New York said the accusations against Geoghan went back more than 30 years and documents which were revealed in court sparked the scandal which has shrouded the Roman Catholic Church in the United States.

They showed that his superiors knew of the complaints against him, but they covered them up and moved him repeatedly to new parishes in the Boston area.

He was believed to have attacked more than 130 children over the last three decades.


Shock

Churchgoers in Boston were shocked by the revelations about the extent of sexual abuse by priests.

As the abuse came to light, more people came forward, alleging abuse by scores of other priests. More than 300 priests resigned or were removed from their duties as a result - including the Boston Cardinal Bernard Law.

Many of my clients would have rather seen Father Geoghan serve out his time in jail and endure the rigours of further criminal trials

Attorney Mitchell Garabedian
Geoghan's case eventually resulted in a multi-million dollar settlement with 86 of his alleged victims.

Mitchell Garabedian, an attorney for many of Geoghan's alleged victims told Reuters news agency that he was "surprised and shocked" by the former priest's death.

"Many of my clients would have rather seen Father Geoghan serve out his time in jail and endure the rigours of further criminal trials, so that his paedophile acts could have been exposed further," he said.

Mr Garabedian said that since 1994 he had been approached by 147 people claiming to have been sexually abused by Geoghan. He said there were outstanding cases against the former priest.

"The two potential criminal cases that may have been brought forward are now going to be closed, but I don't think the civil cases will be adversely affected by his death," he said.

Spokesman for the Archdiocese of Boston, the Reverend Christopher Coyne, offered prayers for Geoghan's family, and for the repose of his soul.
 
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Tom Hark Preston Park

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Dunno about Poetic Justice but certainly Natural Justice in most people's eyes I'd have thought. Go straight to Hell. Do Not Pass Go :salute:
 










bhaexpress

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Well, personal experience has time and time again convinced me that at the very best the average God botherer is a hypocrit. This scumbag is backed up by the greater scumbags who allowed him to behave the way he did.

Sad isn't it ? I'm sure there are some sincere Christains somewhere but they are few and far between.
 


Captain Sensible

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Not the real one
Not just the Christian religions its virtually all of the religions. It's just that Islam and Jewish religions etc don't admit it. Buddists are probably the only ones I'd trust my kids with. If I had Kids.
 


bhaexpress

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Well, the prevelent attitude here is that's it's just a 'catholic issue' bearing in mind the vast majority of church goers here are Baptists. The sad fact is that they're just as bad. I know this for a fact, say no more.
 




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Is this a paedophile tread or a religion thread?

Hypocrites reside the world over, so do religious people and so do paedophiles. It's always easy to make connections between members of society that we don't like (e.g. religious people) and the perpetrators of heinous crimes (e.g. paedophillia) and assume that it just proves your point but that's an arrogant assumption to make.

Wasn't it you, bhaexpress, who criticised me for making assumptions about Daily Mail readers a few months back?Showing your true colours now, eh?
 


bhaexpress

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What are you one about Drop Kick ? Had a rough night ? Do you live in a cave or something ? There's be a lot of reports of sexual abuse amonsgt the religious fraternity in case you haven't noticed. What compounds it is that the Vatican and other heads of religious factions have hither too turned a blind eye.

Over here there's a number of very large law suits on going and now said church leaders have now been flushed out and are having to admit to the situation.

Daily Mail ? I don't think so, can't see me ever defending a Mail reader, you're thinking of somebody else.
 


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OK, perhaps it wasn't you and the Daily Mail readers then. *offers apologies*

Well, it's hardly palatial at Turnip Towers but I wouldn't describe it as a cave. We've got electricity as well so I can keep up with the latest paedo alerts on the television.

Notwithstanding the lawsuits, blind eyes being turned by the Vatican, etc (for which I'll take your word because I haven't the time to check the facts) you said that sincere Christians are few and far between which I feel is a bit of a sweeping generalisation to make.

Also, I'm sceptical of the amount of coverage that paedophillia receives in the press as I suspect it's out of proportion with the actual number of crimes that are being committed.
 




bhaexpress

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Dropkick Turnip said:


Notwithstanding the lawsuits, blind eyes being turned by the Vatican, etc (for which I'll take your word because I haven't the time to check the facts) you said that sincere Christians are few and far between which I feel is a bit of a sweeping generalisation to make.

Also, I'm sceptical of the amount of coverage that paedophillia receives in the press as I suspect it's out of proportion with the actual number of crimes that are being committed.

Sadly I can speak (as a relapsed catholic and somebody who has lived with a 'true Christian') that I stand by by everything I say. I am far from alone in being highly sceptical of any organised religion but will admit that hypocracy is a the name of the game here. Here I sit, in the middle of the world's most powerful nation which allows the church to have far too much say in the day to day running of things.

Face a very simple fact, how can you expect much from a group of people who put so much stock in a book that was written 2000 years (or more if you include the Old Testement). The Bible was written in simplified way for simple people to understand and really has not meaning in the present day, well, no more so than any other work of fiction.

Trouble is, millions of people believe every word as they do with the Koran and so on. Tragically, both the aforementioned are so cryptically written that the content can be twisted to suit the agenda's of anybody who feels the the need to.

I always say to 'devout' Christians this: The thing that will really piss you off is when you knock on the pearly gates only to discover that the bloke who opens it is wearing a turban.
 


JAMC

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Wasn't there a lot of covering up done by the church concerning this man?
SCUM BAG!!:censored: :censored:
 






Beach Hut

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Nor me, if we had vigilantes then the lunatic fringe would take over.
 






There is a basis running through this thread for a defined connection with religion and hipocrisy.

Religion is 'supposed' to be a guidance for all to reach a betterment of their living personality. However, loads think it's all about "getting a nice death" as if it's primarily a self-involved concern - ultimately for saving your own soul under threat of eternal pain ! Religions will argue or berate each other's beliefs, people war and kill, and again find in it a way to differentiate between each other instead of finding common ground (!)

Setting upon one's self the sacrifice of life's 'enjoyable indulgences' in bowing to one's religious doctrine, gets to pull at the spirit when it defies natural urges or 'god-given' satisfactions.
The Catholic requirement put upon their men-of-cloth, is so ridiculous for them to obey - i.e. follow a matriach who was a declared virgin, and indulge with no woman - so as to not be swayed away from the reverence of their icon ? ! ? Deny the sexual urges completely so as to be pure within, yet challenging one of the most strong 'animal instinct' ? Already this has inherent flaws concerning the sanity of the men in cloth - if they manage to resist, they also have to resist insanity due to complete self repression! Then, they surround themselves with relatively innocent, pre-pubescents with feminine traits, and that are sexually curious.
Victims of their own repression, they manifest their insanity upon their sexual victims by slaking their awful desires behind the privacy of their office .
Thus, the measures they set themselves for a life of good is now a complete debauchery, the soul's asylum is now a shared insanity that will affect a victim for all their life - and all from a self-imposed denial of natural urges, which then turns into an unnatural, sinful crime.

For the demands of many religions, all will fall short - but this is a shortfalling that one soul should suffer for . That 'the church' as an organisation should hide or deny the acts of so many of their officers is a truly terrible and culpable atrocity.

The lesson then, is that organised religion is fraught with pitfalls and traps, and misguidance is more prevalent under constraint than it would be under NO constraint !

"Give me freedom or give me death"? - John Geoghan got death.


(a quick footnote - Jesus apparently had siblings, none of whom were declared to be devine conceptions. We can draw from this that Mary the Catholic foremother did not ultimately adhere to any constraint of celibacy herself. She was rogered, probably many times and in several positions :smokin: )
 








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