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bhaexpress

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I've just installed Ubuntu on my PC. It's dual booting with Vista (shortly to be Windows 7) but I am very impressed so far. Performs well and the installation could not be cheaper. Seeing as it's free ..... Try it.
 






bhaexpress

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:thumbsup:
It's the only OS on my machine at home, does everything I need and costs nowt.

Over the next few days I'll be looking around for Windows software that I can run on it. Does seem to be faster though.
 


Garage_Doors

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Jun 28, 2008
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Keep hearing about Ubuntu, & Linux, so want to give it a go, are Ubuntu, & Linux the same, or two different OS ?

I got a spare laptop with XP on, so was going to duel boot it, any good advice ?
 


bhaexpress

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Keep hearing about Ubuntu, & Linux, so want to give it a go, are Ubuntu, & Linux the same, or two different OS ?

I got a spare laptop with XP on, so was going to duel boot it, any good advice ?

Linux is a derivative of Unix. There's several versions some of which like Red Hat you pay for. Ubuntu is another but it's free. It has a lot of Windows like features including it's own version of plug and play. Naturally not all hardware has a Ubuntu driver but as it's free it's worth a try.

What is also worth noting is that Dell install Ubuntu on their Web Books.
 




Garage_Doors

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Jun 28, 2008
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Linux is a derivative of Unix. There's several versions some of which like Red Hat you pay for. Ubuntu is another but it's free. It has a lot of Windows like features including it's own version of plug and play. Naturally not all hardware has a Ubuntu driver but as it's free it's worth a try.

What is also worth noting is that Dell install Ubuntu on their Web Books.

Thanks,
Just been reading up on tutorials for installing Ubuntu, and they seem to conflict, one goes into detail of how to re partition prior to Ubuntu,
and the fact it need 3 partitions,

one for OS,
one for shared files and
one for swap,

Now the bootlaoder,

“Next, create a second primary partition, type ext3, for the new Ubuntu system: highlight the "02" partition, and select Operations->Create. Set "Create as" to "Primary Partition" (so the Linux system can boot), select "ext3" as the partition type, give the drive a sensible partition label, enter the partition size, and click OK”.
next
Now you must copy data from the Ubuntu partition to a file that the Windows bootloader can use for booting Ubuntu. The FAT32 partition, which is accessible to both Linux and Windows, is useful. At the System Rescue CD command prompt, mount the FAT32 partition:# mkdir /mnt/share
# mount -t msdos /dev/hda4 /mnt/share
Note: on your system, the /dev identification of the FAT32 drive may differ. Mount using the correct partition designation for your system.
Make a file containing data copied from the boot sector of your Linux drive (substitute your Linux drive designation if it is not /dev/hda2):
# dd if=/dev/hda2 of=/mnt/share/ubuntu.bin bs=512 count=1If you enter:
# ls -l /mnt/share
you should see the file ubuntu.bin with size 512 bytes.



no problem doing this, but the second tutorial just seems to say put in CD and follow prompts with a little info on the GRUB boot loader, ?

Which method have you used to install it ?
Seconds one seems just too easy ?
 


Simster

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Jul 7, 2003
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I bought a Ubuntu installation disk about 6 months ago but it won't install on my PC - and I've tried about 10 times. :(
 


Daddies_Sauce

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Jun 27, 2008
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Running an Acer Netbook with Fedora 11 & OpenOffice etc. does everything that I need when I'm away from home for a few days.
 




gullshark

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Be careful when partitioning your drive, what the first tutorial is getting at is that out of the box, Linux doesn't play nice with NTFS (Windows file system) and Windows doesn't read EXT3 (Linux file system) - so if you create a 3rd partition (using FAT32, which is an older file system (with limitations) that both can read/write to) then you can share files between your OSs.

The 2nd way using the automatic partitioner will simply wipe the drive and set up partitions as it sees fit, if you have a blank drive or a drive you're willing to nuke and won't have windows on then that's great. No doubt it's the easiest way but of course you will lose any OS and data that's already on the drive.

If you want to try Ubuntu from WITHIN Windows safely I suggest downloading a bit of software that long story short gives you a virtual PC to play with whilst running Windows - a free choice is sun's VirtualBox (VirtualBox) which is excellent if you just want to tinker with linux without fiddling with your hard drive.
 


bhaexpress

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I just googled Ubuntu and downloaded it. I burnt a CD using Nero (Roxio is not that clever for this) and sorry but had no problems !
 






adrian29uk

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Use Ubuntu on this laptop, when not using Windows for work. Absolutely love it. Each version gets better and better. Looking forward to Ubuntu 9.10 out in October.

I installed Ubuntu 9.04 when it came out, not one issue. Everything works. It detected my mobile phone, PSP, MP3, External hardrive, Windows partition immediately and everything else. Remember having issues with Ubuntu 8 not detecting some of my external devices.

Still running as quick as when I first installed it too.

Dreamweaver 9 and Photoshop 7, run better than they did in Windows using Wine. Wine is also getting better by the day.

Anyone using ext4 file system? I think this will be default in Ubuntu 9.10
 


Garage_Doors

Originally the Swankers
Jun 28, 2008
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Brighton
I just googled Ubuntu and downloaded it. I burnt a CD using Nero (Roxio is not that clever for this) and sorry but had no problems !


So you did not re partition for FAt32 to accommodate Ubuntu and duel booting ?
have you got a link for the download, i like the sound of no hassle installing.

Can you file share between the two OS ?
 


Dosser

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Feb 22, 2009
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I dual boot my pc at home with XP (for work) and Ubuntu (for everything else).

Downloaded the set up files and burnt to disk, before using the Disk Partitioner to set up both systems etc.

All works as it should and no dramas.

1st time I booted into Windows after the Ubuntu install it ran a chkdsk as it thought the drive was dirty - but again that only took some time, and no dramas.

Have since done the same on a few other machines from friends and family, and again no issues. Perhaps I am just lucky??
 






adrian29uk

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Sep 10, 2003
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Please come to Ubuntu will an open mind. It will take a bit of getting used too. Most importantly is to use the forums.

Ubuntu Forums

Remember Ubuntu is not Windows, but once you get used to the Ubuntu way you will like it. You will end up with a secure, fast operating system.
 


Dave the OAP

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Jul 5, 2003
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at home
does anyone use Openoffice?
Is it a decent replacement for office?
 






bhaexpress

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So you did not re partition for FAt32 to accommodate Ubuntu and duel booting ?
have you got a link for the download, i like the sound of no hassle installing.

Can you file share between the two OS ?

Actually I used an old disk that I had. It's been formatted for Ubuntu because I didn't know about the FAT32 option. However I can swap files using Pen Drives or my external hard drive.
 


bhaexpress

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Download the live CD, burn it to CD. Pop it on your machine, you can run ubuntu from live CD to see if everything works. If you are happy you can then install it.

Download Ubuntu | Ubuntu

I did that at first but I had the technology. Next step is to build a PC for it using all the parts I have lying around. I have to brace myself for Windows 7.
 


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