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PILTDOWN MAN

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All I’m saying it’s not an easy diy job for someone with limited plumbing skills changing the flush valve in that toilet cistern.
It’s been there for ages as the flush valve is obsolete, the cistern fixing screws are rusted and probably swollen up in the china cistern holes…..care needs to be taken to remove these as the cistern can break.
I can’t see rubber washers behind the rusted screws.

I’m sure the bolts and wing nuts holding the cistern to the pan are probably rusted too.

30+ years plumbing experience, own business 22 years.

I wouldn’t tell a non plumber that this is an easy job, I’m giving an honest opinion to a fellow Albion fan and decent regular on NSC
I know I just love some questions on here at times. I'm a bit of a piss taker at the lack of practical skills, mostly my mates, and end up doing it for them!
 




PILTDOWN MAN

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KZNSeagull

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Nov 26, 2007
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You don't need to be a plumber to be able to fit a toilet.

I've fitted numerous bathrooms, kitchens. Re-wired houses, built extensions, built oak barns, built patios, laid patio's built brick walls.

Also rebuilt car engines, jet engines.

Jobwise, aircraft engineer, publican, beer quality manager, antique dealer. :)

Should add recently I went on a course to learn French polishing, wow that's rewarding.
Don't advertise that service on a postcard in the local shop. :)
 




PILTDOWN MAN

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Don't advertise that service on a postcard in the local shop. :)
Haha no need my children normally just call. This weekend I'm a removal company.
 




The Oldman

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Jul 12, 2003
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In the shadow of Seaford Head
You don't need to be a plumber to be able to fit a toilet.

I've fitted numerous bathrooms, kitchens. Re-wired houses, built extensions, built oak barns, built patios, laid patio's built brick walls.

Also rebuilt car engines, jet engines.

Jobwise, aircraft engineer, publican, beer quality manager, antique dealer. :)

Should add recently I went on a course to learn French polishing, wow that's rewarding.
Good for you. Every time I have attempted diy plumbing it’s been a disaster.
please do not suggest diy plumbing is ok for everyone.
 


PILTDOWN MAN

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PILTDOWN MAN

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Good for you. Every time I have attempted diy plumbing it’s been a disaster.
please do not suggest diy plumbing is ok for everyone.
Are you my dad :ROFLMAO:
 






Eeyore

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Apr 5, 2014
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All I’m saying it’s not an easy diy job for someone with limited plumbing skills changing the flush valve in that toilet cistern.
It’s been there for ages as the flush valve is obsolete, the cistern fixing screws are rusted and probably swollen up in the china cistern holes…..care needs to be taken to remove these as the cistern can break.
I can’t see rubber washers behind the rusted screws.

I’m sure the bolts and wing nuts holding the cistern to the pan are probably rusted too.

30+ years plumbing experience, own business 22 years.

I wouldn’t tell a non plumber that this is an easy job, I’m giving an honest opinion to a fellow Albion fan and decent regular on NSC
Thanks. The property is rented and the landlord is very good. He's away but has asked me to sort forthwith with the regular plumber and he'll reimburse. It's annoying as it's just making a racket every minute. I can turn the cold water off at the mains, but it's a pain having to turn it on again for stuff. There's a full bucket by the toilet ready now !

When I use the taps, hot or cold the toilet cistern seems to draw in more water. I was wanting to ask, and it's very kind of you to offer advice, does the raising of the bullcock mean water will not flow in full stop ? If so, that's fine as it would mean it's just the toilet out of action till it's fixed.

You don't need to be a plumber to be able to fit a toilet.

I've fitted numerous bathrooms, kitchens. Re-wired houses, built extensions, built oak barns, built patios, laid patio's built brick walls.

Also rebuilt car engines, jet engines.

Jobwise, aircraft engineer, publican, beer quality manager, antique dealer. :)

Should add recently I went on a course to learn French polishing, wow that's rewarding.
You do when you are me. I have to look up YouTube videos to change a light bulb.
 


PILTDOWN MAN

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Thanks. The property is rented and the landlord is very good. He's away but has asked me to sort forthwith with the regular plumber and he'll reimburse. It's annoying as it's just making a racket every minute. I can turn the cold water off at the mains, but it's a pain having to turn it on again for stuff. There's a full bucket by the toilet ready now !

When I use the taps, hot or cold the toilet cistern seems to draw in more water. I was wanting to ask, and it's very kind of you to offer advice, does the raising of the bullock mean water will not flow in full stop ? If so, that's fine as it would mean it's just the toilet out of action till it's fixed.


You do when you are me. I have to look up YouTube videos to change a light bulb.
:ROFLMAO:
 




essbee1

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Jun 25, 2014
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You don't need to be a plumber to be able to fit a toilet.

I've fitted numerous bathrooms, kitchens. Re-wired houses, built extensions, built oak barns, built patios, laid patio's built brick walls.

Also rebuilt car engines, jet engines.

Jobwise, aircraft engineer, publican, beer quality manager, antique dealer. :)

Should add recently I went on a course to learn French polishing, wow that's rewarding.
Is a French polisher someone who sees something or someone French and rubs it/them down with a duster?
 


BN9 BHA

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Jul 14, 2013
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Newhaven
When I use the taps, hot or cold the toilet cistern seems to draw in more water. I was wanting to ask, and it's very kind of you to offer advice, does the raising of the bullcock mean water will not flow in full stop ? If so, that's fine as it would mean it's just the toilet out of action till it's fixed.
Yes as long as the cistern isn’t filling you have stopped the flow by tying up the ballvalve (fill valve) with string.
 


Justice

Dangerous Idiot
Jun 21, 2012
20,341
Born In Shoreham
All I’m saying it’s not an easy diy job for someone with limited plumbing skills changing the flush valve in that toilet cistern.
It’s been there for ages as the flush valve is obsolete, the cistern fixing screws are rusted and probably swollen up in the china cistern holes…..care needs to be taken to remove these as the cistern can break.
I can’t see rubber washers behind the rusted screws.

I’m sure the bolts and wing nuts holding the cistern to the pan are probably rusted too.

30+ years plumbing experience, own business 22 years.

I wouldn’t tell a non plumber that this is an easy job, I’m giving an honest opinion to a fellow Albion fan and decent regular on NSC
You can give all the professional advice on here and someone with no knowledge will say do it this way it’s easy 🙄 as you have pointed out the flexi hose goes on a journey first pain in the arse … ..
 




Wrong-Direction

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Mar 10, 2013
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Rented property that was originally bodged and not been touched for years, landlord wants a cheap quick fix..
Im so busy i usually turn jobs like this away tbh.
Have a look online for an Impulse flush valve washer and try that first, alternatively get PILTDOWN round and keep us updated on how he gets on.

Edit - having actually read the thread if it's the float valve that is a simpler fix depending on if you can get to the other side of the flexi in the wall..
 
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BN9 BHA

DOCKERS
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Jul 14, 2013
22,428
Newhaven
You can give all the professional advice on here and someone with no knowledge will say do it this way it’s easy 🙄 as you have pointed out the flexi hose goes on a journey first pain in the arse … ..
Those flexible hoses in walls are up near the top of my very long list of plumbing pet hates.
I see so many that are not buried that are rusted.
 


Wrong-Direction

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Mar 10, 2013
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Those flexible hoses in walls are up near the top of my very long list of plumbing pet hates.
I see so many that are not buried that are rusted.
Thing is most taps are supplied with them, I wonder how many are sitting hidden waiting to blow at any minute and ruin someone's life..
 


Cheshire Cat

The most curious thing..
Thanks. A neighbour suggested this as an interim. Would it be right ?

'Get long length of string. take off lid of cistern, and tie string around the ballcock support arm and pull GENTLY up until the loo tank stops refilling. Secure string at that height (gaffer tape to outside of cistern/tiles/a cactus in Texas keeping the height of the support arm), toilet should stop filling. Call plumber'
It might work. I've done similar before as a temporary fix.

Call a plumber.

Empty your bank account and all your savings.
 






Eeyore

Colonel Hee-Haw of Queen's Park
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