Muralitherans Bowling action.

[Marshy]

Is it legal or not ?

And if not, what should be done.

Im not an expert by any means, but his arm certainly looks bent at delivery to me, and therefore is illegal in my opinion.

 

[CHAPPERS]

Very suspect. I think he's a chucker.

 

[Raphael Meade]

BLATANTLY a dirty chucker..

 

[fatbadger]

Not a chucker. It looks suspect, there is no doubt about that, but after his previous citing, the investigations by a top sports physiology unit in Australia showed that the action was due to his having a different physiology in his arm, and that, crucially, he gained no advantage (i.e. the effect was not that which would be expected from real chucking).

 

[Jambo Seagull]

Funny how only ever gets called when he's playing the Aussies. The fact that they are the world's worst losers is entirely concidental......

 

[CHAPPERS]

What, apart from when he got called against us?

 

[Dave the OAP]

The definition of chucking has changed. In my day it was "if you had a bent enbow" then by definition you were a chucker, but then cameJeff Thomson who appeared to have a bent elbow at the point of delivetry, which it was later proved as crap.

Muli has a deformed wrint which gives the impression of a chuck.

Personally I am convinced he is a chuck in the truest sense but the authorities have argued that his "disability" allows for this to be a special case. Doesn't stop him chucking it though

Dave

 

[Jambo Seagull]

When was that, 1998 or something? I can't remember him being called in the last tour but I maybe wrong. In fact, I can't remember him being called against England at all.He always seems to be called when he plays the Aussies.

 

[CHAPPERS]

When was that, 1998 or something? I can't remember him being called in the last tour but I maybe wrong. In fact, I can't remember him being called against England at all.He always seems to be called when he plays the Aussies.

Twas a one dayer. The Sri Lanka captain at the time theratened to pull the whole team off in protest. Hussain and Butcher were batting.

 

[Jambo Seagull]

have a vague recollections of that. I don't understand the latest controversy. I thought it was now accepted that because of his disability he cannot straighten his arm and therefore as long as he is attempting to straightne it as much as possible then that's OK. Maybe I am being incredibly naive here but I'm not sure what advantage he would gain from chucking it anyway. I can see how Shoaib Akhtar would gain an advantage by chucking it as his aim is just pure speed. But with Murali I can't see what difference it would make. I think if they were going to ban him they should have done so long before now.

 

[CHAPPERS]

. Maybe I am being incredibly naive here but I'm not sure what advantage he would gain from chucking it anyway. I can see how Shoaib Akhtar would gain an advantage by chucking it as his aim is just pure speed. But with Murali I can't see what difference it would make. .

Indeed, was just wondering that myself. He does roll his fingers over the ball sometimes though and straightening may help get a bit more turn in that case?

 

[Marshy]

Whatever, he is never going to be seen as a great bowler because of it.

 

[Lady Whistledown]

I'm not an expert, but I thought you could bowl with a bent arm as long as you don't straighten it in the action of bowling??

 

[Dave the OAP]

I think the problem is his " wrong 'un" Which is the leg break bowled with a off break action.

A " normal " action can be picked, ie Shane warne, but the argument about Mulli is that as his action is suspect anyway, that it proves almost impossible to differentiate between a delivery.

If you watch Kirtley's action ( I have faced him before) his action is very "slingy" which can be as has been percieved as throwing. In fact even his new action , when looking at his bouncer, he does give the impression of throwing it into the pitch, but there again what do I know, I bowl of the wrong foot a la Mike Proctor.

 

[Dave the OAP]

Edna, I was taught that your bowling action must result in a straight arm at the point of delivery.......which then proves impossible to throw the ball.

 

[Martlet]

Law 24.2 (c) 3. Definition of fair delivery – the arm

A ball is fairly delivered in respect of the arm if, once the bowler's arm has reached the level of the shoulder in the delivery swing, the elbow joint is not straightened partially or completely from that point until the ball has left the hand. This definition shall not debar a bowler from flexing or rotating the wrist in the delivery swing.


I think Edna's got it right - it's a fair action if the bowler doesn't straighten the arm between the ball levelling with the shoulder and leaving the hand.

Kirtley's got this hyper-extension thing which means that through his arm bends backwards on itself, which gives the impression he's chucking it.

Murali though's a different story - can't say I envy the umpires!

 

[Dave the OAP]

there you are the. I bow to martlet.

Someone once " called " me for a back foot no-ball, which as I bowl off the wrong foot, is actually impossible to acheive. That was the one and only time I have had a Shakoo Rhana moment with an umpire and I refused, somewhat petulantly, to continue the over until he apologised. Looking back it was an example of very bad sporting behaviour although at the time I was livid

Suffice it to say, I have been given out run out and LBW more times by this particular umpire than any other.

 

[Martlet]

Not at all - just done a fair bit of umpiring in my time...

pretty thankless task, too. You can get it right for hours, then make a call someone doesn't like, and all hell breaks loose!

I once gave our captain out for a clear edge - the ball deviated, def noise, his bat was wafting miles outside off stump. He stormed off, shouted "you f*cking sod, I always walk" in the dressing room, and then gave me out lbw on the front foot, a yard down the pitch against a spinner the next week.

complete walker...


Out of interest, you must play at a pretty good level, dave, to face Kirtley? Any good war stories?

 

[Jambo Seagull]

I have umpired for Penicuik 3rds in the local Edinburgh leagues when I was batting further down the order etc and was told on my first occasion that at this level not to bother giving LBW unless ou want to start a civil war. I found it difficult enough putting my pebbles in the correct pocket after every ball.