Got something to say or just want fewer pesky ads? Join us... 😊

message



Steve_Foster

New member
Aug 8, 2005
43
Here is a scenario for you, there is a man walking down a street with a leather brief case, pin striped black suit with a yellow shirt and white silk tight who is well groomed and handsome, now there is another man in clothes which are faded and very worn his face and hair is also too match scruffy and bearded with sagged eyes and has a certain odour of bo about him, so who would you rather approach too ask the time or just who would you judge as a better person?

Now this is the scenario the man in the suit is a ruthless coward businessman who makes money out of the poor evicts them from there homes and destroys peoples lives on a daily basis, and only has care for himself.
The shaggy looking man is in this way because he is homeless, after he had got back from a war in which he had killed and watched people die for his country and his brothers in arms around him, he found his wife had left him for another man and was jobless he was evicted from his home and was left penniless on the streets, society had cast him aside evn though he fort courageously and honourably for his country.

Society gives respect through vein eyes.

And because of the way people look we give them respect or dis respect because of looks, if there good looking, society bases respect on appearance before actions. Im not saying we should respect the tramp, im saying we shouldnt respect or disrespect somebody before we know them, before we know there story and who they are and how they act on the choices they take. We shouldnt give new people an inch either way when we dont know them, they and we have to prove ourselves who we are.

And i know your first thought will be denial you will say thats obvious i already know that and so on. But my view on that is your thats bollocks because i know for a fact thats how people think deep down subconsciously, next time you judge someone before you know them think about this and how vein your respect is, along with societies vein eyed respect.
 




bhaexpress

New member
Jul 7, 2003
27,627
Kent
Would mean something if the spelling was a bit more accurate, other than that what's your point ?

For 'vein' I think you meant 'vain', at least I hope you did.
 


Gully

Monkey in a seagull suit.
Apr 24, 2004
16,812
Way out west
Having read the whole thing twice, I reckon the meaning is that we should never judge by appearances or give respect based on social status alone.
 
















rool

Well-known member
Jul 10, 2003
6,031
I'd have to be honest and say the businessman every time.

I personally find all the homeless types that were around Brighton intimidating and value my own life and responsibilties towards my family before some principles that may get me stabbed in a dark alley.
 


crasher

New member
Jul 8, 2003
2,764
Sussex
This is only true if you want it to be so.

Those of us who have developed a finely-honed class consciousness know to be automatically suspicious of a man in a suit since he will, inevitabley, represent a corporate or bourgeois position of oppression.

No point in invoking the John Lennon/Imagine/touchy-feely/wouldn't it be great if we all got along/don't-judge-a-book-by-its-cover defence - follow the logic of your argument to its ultimate.

Smash the capitalist system!
 


rool

Well-known member
Jul 10, 2003
6,031
crasher said:
This is only true if you want it to be so.

Those of us who have developed a finely-honed class consciousness know to be automatically suspicious of a man in a suit since he will, inevitabley, represent a corporate or bourgeois position of oppression.

No point in invoking the John Lennon/Imagine/touchy-feely/wouldn't it be great if we all got along/don't-judge-a-book-by-its-cover defence - follow the logic of your argument to its ultimate.

Smash the capitalist system!

yeahhhh, vegetable rights and peace
 








crasher

New member
Jul 8, 2003
2,764
Sussex
Now why would you assume I have to be off my face?

Everyday, all of us, whoever we are, moan about the state of our lives. The bosses who don't listen to us, the political parties who ignore us, the material prizes that we can't quite afford and are somehow just out of reach. The fact that we'll have to work till we're 68 just for the privilege of collapsing in an armchair and wheezing a bit in front of the telly until it's time to die.

While meanwhile the newspapers, television and radio celebrate the fuckwits who will, almost literally do anything to have their faces paraded on Big Brother or in the Daily Star for five minutes. While we're subjected to Mission Impossible III or whatever useless gobbet of stinking Hollywood product placement is deemed "cool" for the instant that we're awake in between work and alcohol or dope-induced coma. While the G14 decide how the game we all love will be run in future. While Cabinet Ministers vote themselves pensions for life and tell the rest of us that we need to be responsible as companies like Enron nuke more than £1 billion of their employees future into space on the whim that they're mates with George W and they went to Harvard Business School so they've got to be OK.

I've had no scoops except scoops of derision, pain and indifference from a system that cares not whether I live, die or just turn to gibbering jelly in a corner of whichever ionised, strip-lit e-office that deigns to torture ordinary people like me this month.

Have a good evening.
 




bhaexpress

New member
Jul 7, 2003
27,627
Kent
crasher said:
Now why would you assume I have to be off my face?

Everyday, all of us, whoever we are, moan about the state of our lives. The bosses who don't listen to us, the political parties who ignore us, the material prizes that we can't quite afford and are somehow just out of reach. The fact that we'll have to work till we're 68 just for the privilege of collapsing in an armchair and wheezing a bit in front of the telly until it's time to die.

While meanwhile the newspapers, television and radio celebrate the fuckwits who will, almost literally do anything to have their faces paraded on Big Brother or in the Daily Star for five minutes. While we're subjected to Mission Impossible III or whatever useless gobbet of stinking Hollywood product placement is deemed "cool" for the instant that we're awake in between work and alcohol or dope-induced coma. While the G14 decide how the game we all love will be run in future. While Cabinet Ministers vote themselves pensions for life and tell the rest of us that we need to be responsible as companies like Enron nuke more than £1 billion of their employees future into space on the whim that they're mates with George W and they went to Harvard Business School so they've got to be OK.

I've had no scoops except scoops of derision, pain and indifference from a system that cares not whether I live, die or just turn to gibbering jelly in a corner of whichever ionised, strip-lit e-office that deigns to torture ordinary people like me this month.

Have a good evening.

Bit of a misery aren't you ? Somehow I think you're not that old as believe me there are ways to get through life without being so negative. Sorry but I get bored with this 'smash the system' rhetoric, its just a little bit juvenile.
 


Barrel of Fun

Abort, retry, fail
Actually, this is very strange. An elderly gent walked up to me the other day and asked if I had the time (I was wearing a suit). I had lost my watch about three days before and my phone was in the car, so I had no idea. The chap walking just ahead of me, who the gent ignored turned round and said 5.30. A Skateboarder
type chap. The kind of people that you are supposed to be scared of, according to the mail etc.

The moral of the story is that in thinking you have made the right choice, doesn't necessarily mean you have.
 


crasher

New member
Jul 8, 2003
2,764
Sussex
bhaexpress said:
Bit of a misery aren't you ? Somehow I think you're not that old as believe me there are ways to get through life without being so negative. Sorry but I get bored with this 'smash the system' rhetoric, its just a little bit juvenile.


I am a bit of a misery yes. Apologies.

But look at your own language here - your ambition is to "get through" life as if it's some painful ordeal that must be endured. Shouldn't we try to create something a little better? Something that might give us opportunity, something more than the simple avoidance of pain?
 




Albion and Premier League latest from Sky Sports


Top
Link Here