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M4 Speed Camera Hoax







Rowdey

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Think it was BR <shouts of GRASS from the back..>

He was on the right lines, about S.P.E.C.S though and for the doubters about the technology HERE IS THE LINK TO SOME USEFUL INFO

I'm on a bike, so they won't catch me.....
 


I know the technology exists but as I understand the law, they will have to advertise them before activating them. Just got an e-mail from work along similar lines which made me search for them and find it was a hoax. For now! Won't be long before satellites track our every move and we set up Direct Debits for our speeding fines. :nono:
 




Yorkie

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dahn sarf
As I posted on the original thread speed cameras have to be painted yellow and highly visible.

They are not allowed to hide them in any way. That is the law
 




Yorkie said:
As I posted on the original thread speed cameras have to be painted yellow and highly visible.

They are not allowed to hide them in any way. That is the law

Hmmmm...It would appear some police forces are above the law then. (What a surprise?!) The sneakiest one I've seen recently is on the approach to Bideford in North Devon. It's hidden in the alcove of a wall and is impossible to spot untill you are past it.
 


Rowdey

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Not quite true Yorkie, it's a reccomendation that they (Gatso's) should be done.

There's still quite a few out there in grey and indeed some (particually southbound on the A20 to Brands Hatch) that are deliberately hidden behind large road signs.

Have a look at the link above, and your'll see these new ones.
 




Yorkie

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updated 21 October 2003

Transport Minister John Spellar announced on 3 December 2001 that safety cameras will in future have to be bright yellow to maximise their visibility to motorists, and he set out strict new guidelines for the visibility and signing of cameras and camera sites.

However before you get too excited the DTLR have confirmed that these regulations do not provide a defence to any speeding prosecution which the police may bring, but are merely a way of regulating the netting-off scheme. Any force which does not comply could be thrown out of the scheme, but you cannot use the breach as a defence to a speeding ticket.

For what its worth the new rules state that:

Camera housings must be yellow

No camera housing should be obscured by bridges, signs, trees or bushes

Cameras must be visible from 60 metres away in 40 mph or less areas and 100 metres for all other limits

Camera warning and speed limit reminders must be placed within one kilometre of fixed and mobile camera sites

Signs must only be placed in areas where camera housings are placed or where mobile cameras are used

Mobile speed camera users must be highly visible by wearing fluorescent clothing and their vehicles marked with reflective strips

Camera sites must be reviewed at least every six months to ensure that visibility and signing conditions are being met

The rules will be binding for every police force in and applying to join the netting-off scheme, where money from fines is re-invested in more cameras at dangerous places. Failure to comply will mean that forces may be thrown out of the scheme. However it has no effect on the motorist caught by an unpainted, hidden speed camera. There were originally 8 police forces in the pilot scheme, but now (Feb 2003) most of the country is covered (45 forces out of 51) These are:

Avon & Somerset, Bedfordshire & Luton, Cambridgeshire, Cheshire, Cleveland, Cumbria, Derbyshire, Devon & Cornwall, Dorset, Dumfries & Galloway, Dyfed & Powys, Essex, Fife, Grampian, Gwent, Hampshire, Hertfordshire, Humberside, Kent & Medway, Lancashire, Leicestershire, Lincolnshire, London (Met & City), Lothian & Borders, Norfolk, North East Scotland, North Wales, Northamptonshire, Nottingham, North Yorkshire, Northumbria, South Wales, South Yorkshire, Staffordshire, Strathclyde, Suffolk, Sussex, Tayside, Thames Valley, Warwickshire, West Mercia, West Midlands, West Yorkshire, Wiltshire.
If for any reason highway authorities consider that yellow colouring is not suitable or there are special circumstances for some site locations, for example in areas of outstanding natural beauty, then a case needs to be made to the Safety Camera Netting off Project Board.

The Department (via DOT Circular Roads 1/92) recommends that cameras should be located at the sites which have the worst record for accidents caused by speeding and that, before deploying them, safety checks should be made to identify any other measures which should be carried out first (e.g. improving road layout, anti-skid surfacing, improved visibility, etc.). DOT Circular Roads 1/92 will shortly be updated and will include guidance on camera visibility
 


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