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Lib/Cons 'only deal in town'



Gwylan

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
32,292
Uffern
A senior Lib Dem has said the "only deal in town" for his party would be with the Conservatives, according to the BBC.

Looks like it's going to a Con/LD alliance after all.

If I were Clegg, that's the one I'd go with.
 






Rookie

Greetings
Feb 8, 2005
12,324
Cons should give them the deal give it 6 months and call an election. Think the public will remember the pissing about the liberals having been doing and vote accordingly
 


Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
55,970
Surrey
If I were Clegg, that's the one I'd go with.
I think it depends what's on the table doesn't it?

I'm not sure why the press is clamouring for him to get on with it. I'd rather all parties actually took their time and made the right decision, whatever it is.
 


Couldn't Be Hyypia

We've come a long long way together
NSC Patron
Nov 12, 2006
17,422
Near Bridport, Dorset
Cons should give them the deal give it 6 months and call an election. Think the public will remember the pissing about the liberals having been doing and vote accordingly

Hardly pissing about - trying to influence policy and make sure that there is a stable govt at a time when the country needs it - exactly as they said from day one of the election.
 




Gwylan

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
32,292
Uffern
I think it depends what's on the table doesn't it?

I'm not sure why the press is clamouring for him to get on with it. I'd rather all parties actually took their time and made the right decision, whatever it is.

It has been five days now since the election. This was not something out of the blue, a hung parliament has been predicted for weeks so both sides would have prepared their negotiating stances and how far they have to go.

Tories have already offered voting reform referendum and full coalition, including, I presume, cabinet places. The LDs would have taken that before the election, surely.
 


jezzer

Active member
Jul 18, 2003
759
eastbourne
Bollocks, they take weeks in other countries to decide these things, the poor bastards have hardly had any sleep for 5 nights and thats off the back of a relentless election campaign. Like to see you do it.
 


Gwylan

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
32,292
Uffern
Bollocks, they take weeks in other countries to decide these things, the poor bastards have hardly had any sleep for 5 nights and thats off the back of a relentless election campaign. Like to see you do it.

Hmmm... what countries are you thinking of? Germany generally does this quickly (the exception being the special circumstances of 2005). Italy does things slightly differently and agrees alliances before elections.

Israel is the only country I can think of that takes some time but there are all sorts of tiny parties with a say there.
 




Mellor 3 Ward 4

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Jul 27, 2004
10,619
saaf of the water
I think the point is that whilst each Party will have known it's own negotiating position in the event of a hung Parliament - they don't/didn't know each others.

Thats why it's taken what seems to be a long time.

In reality it's only 4/5 days and if we didn't have 24 hour TV coverage it wouldn't be such a frenzy.
 


Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
55,970
Surrey
It has been five days now since the election. This was not something out of the blue, a hung parliament has been predicted for weeks so both sides would have prepared their negotiating stances and how far they have to go.

Tories have already offered voting reform referendum and full coalition, including, I presume, cabinet places. The LDs would have taken that before the election, surely.
It has *only* been 5 days, and the deal on the table now seems markedly different from what sounded like it was being proposed in CMD's opening speech after the results came in. It's just horsetrading and takes as long as it takes.

From a LibDem point of view, they've waited decades to extract these concessions, and in all that time they've sat on the sidelines with far less influence than their share of the vote deserved.
 


Kalimantan Gull

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Aug 13, 2003
14,145
Central Borneo / the Lizard
Hmmm... what countries are you thinking of? Germany generally does this quickly (the exception being the special circumstances of 2005). Italy does things slightly differently and agrees alliances before elections.

Israel is the only country I can think of that takes some time but there are all sorts of tiny parties with a say there.

Saw someone say on the beeb that the average time to sort out a coalition post-election in Europe is 40 days.

I prefer a minority Con govt now, so when it fucks up and we have another hung parliament, weighted a bit more to the left, we can get a longer term more stable LibLab pact.
 




Mellor 3 Ward 4

Well-known member
Jul 27, 2004
10,619
saaf of the water
Too many Labour MPs (including Schools Minister Diana Johnson) saying that a Lib/Lab Coalition cannot be stable.

It's falling apart before it's even been agreed.

Michael Meacher saying basically the same thing.
 








Mellor 3 Ward 4

Well-known member
Jul 27, 2004
10,619
saaf of the water
It seems that Paddy Ashdown and Menzies Campbell are the ones holding up a deal with the Tories.

Maybe the Tories should go it alone, have another Election in October and wipe the Floor with the Liberals.

Labour might quite like that, as with a new Leader they would probably do better....
 


vulture

Banned
Jul 26, 2004
16,515
It seems that Paddy Ashdown and Menzies Campbell are the ones holding up a deal with the Tories.

Maybe the Tories should go it alone, have another Election in October and wipe the Floor with the Liberals.

Labour might quite like that, as with a new Leader they would probably do better....

pb saying over 75 per cent of libs going to vote for tories
 


Mellor 3 Ward 4

Well-known member
Jul 27, 2004
10,619
saaf of the water
When you have Labour MPs (Mike Wood) saying that Cameron should be MP, then you kknow a LibDem/Labour deal is dead.

There is no way it could be called a 'stable' government.
 


jezzer

Active member
Jul 18, 2003
759
eastbourne
Belgium went 190+ days without deciding! Whats the bloody rush, markets going down, wow! Mmm, wonder what will happen if when cameron gets sworn in, markets go up. Wow!
 




Tricky Dicky

New member
Jul 27, 2004
13,558
Sunny Shoreham
It has been five days now since the election. This was not something out of the blue, a hung parliament has been predicted for weeks so both sides would have prepared their negotiating stances and how far they have to go.

Tories have already offered voting reform referendum and full coalition, including, I presume, cabinet places. The LDs would have taken that before the election, surely.

The only difference is that everybody thought that the tories would have a stronger turnout (albeit in a hung parliament), and therefore LibDems having less clout. I think the narrowness of the vote has caught them on the hop a little.
 


Acker79

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NSC Patron
Nov 15, 2008
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Brighton
Hmmm... what countries are you thinking of? Germany generally does this quickly (the exception being the special circumstances of 2005). Italy does things slightly differently and agrees alliances before elections.

Israel is the only country I can think of that takes some time but there are all sorts of tiny parties with a say there.

What about america? A campaign lasting almost a year, an election in november, power changing hands in january. They have a winner in their election that takes longer to take his seat than we usually take to have the entire process.

Granted, it's a presidential election not a parliamentary one, but still.
 


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