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[Football] Joe Lycett to shred £10k if Becks continues his World Cup promotion...

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Bodian

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May 3, 2012
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Have any of us actually seen or heard Beckham doing anything for his mega-millions. What is he actually being paid to do?
 

BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
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please bin this thread ....fucking cringeworthy , rainbow planes , unfunny comedians and all the virtuous bollox its stirred up are embarrassing to say the least ....ffs
You know the word virtue is a positive thing don't you? It is a strange post that criticises virtuousness being stirred up.

I suppose it is from the moribund phrase 'virtue signalling', a phrase that allows the hard of thinking to dismiss someone being virtuous (remember a positive) without considering or acknowledging what they are saying.

The funniest thing about the phrase 'virtue signalling' is that it is exactly that. Use it and we all know that you are not one of these 'woke' 'snowflakes'.

Trouble is that it is another social media construct that stifles debate and keeps everyone divided because they refuse to try and understand what each other think. Show some respect to your fellow posters (you are here for a reasons right?) And engage in discussion if you disagree.

Not really aimed at you Sydney, I am just sick of this social media name calling bullshit stopping us talking. See also gammon etc etc. We are better than that.
 


sydney

tinky ****in winky
Jul 11, 2003
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You know the word virtue is a positive thing don't you? It is a strange post that criticises virtuousness being stirred up.

I suppose it is from the moribund phrase 'virtue signalling', a phrase that allows the hard of thinking to dismiss someone being virtuous (remember a positive) without considering or acknowledging what they are saying.

The funniest thing about the phrase 'virtue signalling' is that it is exactly that. Use it and we all know that you are not one of these 'woke' 'snowflakes'.

Trouble is that it is another social media construct that stifles debate and keeps everyone divided because they refuse to try and understand what each other think. Show some respect to your fellow posters (you are here for a reasons right?) And engage in discussion if you disagree.

Not really aimed at you Sydney, I am just sick of this social media name calling bullshit stopping us talking. See also gammon etc etc. We are better than that.
yes mate , yes .....Fifa spruiking diversity and inclusivity but England afraid to wear an armband for fear of getting booked ......thats my point, the hypocrisy is hidden in plain sight.
 

Greg Bobkin

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May 22, 2012
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What a shame he turned out to be just another chancer self-publicist
I'm not sure that's fair. He's done loads of these stunts to raise awareness of inequality and global issues before and in sure he'll continue to, but they aren't done purely for his own personal benefit.

For example, when he 'stormed out' of a TV show as part of a protest against the use of white plastic bottles for Yop that couldn't be recycled. (The company subsequently changed its policy).

Or when he changed his name to Hugo Boss to highlight the brand threatening a smaller company, Boss Brewing, for daring to use the word 'Boss'.

He even had his own show dedicated to helping consumers take on corporations when they feel they've been unfairly treated!

But sure, think of his as 'just' another chancer self-publicist if you like...
 

Greg Bobkin

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yes mate , yes .....Fifa spruiking diversity and inclusivity but England afraid to wear an armband for fear of getting booked ......thats my point, the hypocrisy is hidden in plain sight.
For someone who wanted to 'bin' the thread, you've suddenly got a lot to say on it :bigwave:
 

Swansman

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May 13, 2019
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Listening to the latest episode of Richard Herring's podcast which has Mr Lycett on it.

As he says in that, It's got people talking, whatever your view

Sure, some WEIRD people will be talking more about the £10k but it also has people rightly talking about Beckham and the truly mad decision he has made. All he actually wants is for Beckham to acknowledge the issues. Reading between the lines, that would probably see him not shred the £10k.

Again, it's a bit weird that some people seem more upset about £10k being threatened to be shred compared to the other issues but there you go.

And there we have it.

People feel more uncomfortable about the £10k rather than the much bigger issue. He could have stated A LOT MORE than 10k (he could afford it) but he actually picked a relatively low amount of money, and it still caused more outrage than the LGBT one.

His point has been proven.

It's just all very ghastly and uncomfortable when people make a scene, isn't it?
Pick one...

I think if he'd taken this identical battle but with someone who has actual power and influence (say, the English FA or English govt. that deals a great lot with Qatar) rather than some clueless object of a man (former celeb David Beckham), I'd certainly feel it was more valuable battle.
 

BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
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yes mate , yes .....Fifa spruiking diversity and inclusivity but England afraid to wear an armband for fear of getting booked ......thats my point, the hypocrisy is hidden in plain sight.
Totally agree it is fucked.
 

sydney

tinky ****in winky
Jul 11, 2003
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For someone who wanted to 'bin' the thread, you've suddenly got a lot to say on it :bigwave:
it depends on which angle you want to focus.....corporate greed , global price gouging , 55,000 euros for an A Class world cup final ticket , people getting thrown out of stadiums because their hats or t shirts are deemed inappropriate , 22, 000 cctv cameras with facial recognition around Doha ........thats on the hooter i reckon , calling out footballing legends for taking an obscene fee for doing a few adverts....prrftt skewed targeting in my opinion.

Beckham isn't the problem.
 


Greg Bobkin

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May 22, 2012
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it depends on which angle you want to focus.....corporate greed , global price gouging , 55,000 euros for an A Class world cup final ticket , people getting thrown out of stadiums because their hats or t shirts are deemed inappropriate , 22, 000 cctv cameras with facial recognition around Doha ........thats on the hooter i reckon , calling out footballing legends for taking an obscene fee for doing a few adverts....prrftt skewed targeting in my opinion.

Beckham isn't the problem.
Fascinating as I'm sure all that is, it's got nothing to do with the point I was making...
 

BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
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I've never known an awareness campaign that "didn't work" or "could have been better" continue to be talked about several days after.

Just imagine if he'd taken the advice onboard. We could have been talking about this for years.

Silly Joe.

Quite, those that claim it could have been done better have so far failed to provide a superior example.
 

JBizzle

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Apr 18, 2010
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it depends on which angle you want to focus.....corporate greed , global price gouging , 55,000 euros for an A Class world cup final ticket , people getting thrown out of stadiums because their hats or t shirts are deemed inappropriate , 22, 000 cctv cameras with facial recognition around Doha ........thats on the hooter i reckon , calling out footballing legends for taking an obscene fee for doing a few adverts....prrftt skewed targeting in my opinion.

Beckham isn't the problem.
Well, that's kind exactly the point about why Beckham is the problem.

Beckham took a shed load of money, specifically to deflect from all of the points you mention, plus immigrant deaths, LGBTQ+ persecution etc. He's a Qatari shill, a fluffer, there specifically to do the role of saying "Don't look at all of this awful, awful stuff happening over there, look how nice the view is from this Qatari landmark?"

Calling out Beckham is calling out all of the rest of it by association
 

sydney

tinky ****in winky
Jul 11, 2003
16,804
town full of eejits
Well, that's kind exactly the point about why Beckham is the problem.

Beckham took a shed load of money, specifically to deflect from all of the points you mention, plus immigrant deaths, LGBTQ+ persecution etc. He's a Qatari shill, a fluffer, there specifically to do the role of saying "Don't look at all of this awful, awful stuff happening over there, look how nice the view is from this Qatari landmark?"

Calling out Beckham is calling out all of the rest of it by association
you think Beckham needs digging out to the same extent that fifa needs digging out for awarding the cup to Qatar in the first place ...??
 

Harry Wilson's tackle

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Oct 8, 2003
40,677
Faversham
you think Beckham needs digging out to the same extent that fifa needs digging out for awarding the cup to Qatar in the first place ...??
I don't think anyone has said that.

Some people, such as Lycett, have drawn attention to the bad aspects of Qatar and its world cup hosting. Others have taken the Qatari shilling to shill for them. People have commented on this.

There is no need to demand a discussion about who is completely and most fabulously correct and who is the chief architect of every evil. :shrug:

(And also, the fact this thread keeps being bounced justifies Lycett's 'stunt').
 

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