[Politics] Important story on the Shoreham disaster today - *update, petition to stop Andy Hill flying*

[Tooting Gull]

http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/15634044.Outrage_as_families_of_Shoreham_Airshow_disaster_victims_are_denied_legal_aid/?ref=mr&lp=4

At least the local MP has raised this at PM's Questions

 

[SIMMO SAYS]

Instead of talking about sausage rolls NSC could ask why this tragedy has not had all the questions resolved.

 

[Leekbrookgull]

Simmo,like you say TWO YEARS on,just what is going on ?

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

Instead of talking about sausage rolls NSC could ask why this tragedy has not had all the questions resolved.

How about "as well as" instead of "instead of", which is what is actually happening.

 

[SIMMO SAYS]

How about "as well as" instead of "instead of", which is what is actually happening.

So what's your favourite sausage roll

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

What I really do not understand is the need to hold an independent review. The AAIB know what happened and who is to blame for the accident, the whys and wherefores about why the plane was allowed to be there should by now be resolved.

The pilot acted alone in attempting his flying routine and he alone caused the accident by his misjudgement. Therefore criminal proceeding should have started on him. Further procedural issues as to why and if (at all) he has allowed to do his routine in the area over the A27 should result in further proceedings. If indeed he was given such permission it still doesn't exonerate any of the blame from him for endangering lives.

When aviation laws were originally passed they were solely to protect those on the ground and not those in flying machines. That premise exists still.

As an ex-licensed aircraft engineer I know if I f@@ked up I would soon have found myself being prosecuted it appears to be different for others.

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

So what's your favourite sausage roll

I can't say I eat sausage rolls.............

 

[Buzzer]

So what's your favourite sausage roll

Not really appropriate on this thread, matey.

 

[SIMMO SAYS]

I can't say I eat sausage rolls.............

You're missing out mate.
Although I'd skip BG's homemade stuff

 

[Beach Hut]

Not really appropriate on this thread, matey.

Agreed but totally understandable given the mentality of the poster who thinks adding an emoji cow is so utterly funny

 

[SIMMO SAYS]

Not really appropriate on this thread, matey.

Post two

 

[Igzilla]

http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/15634044.Outrage_as_families_of_Shoreham_Airshow_disaster_victims_are_denied_legal_aid/?ref=mr&lp=4

At least the local MP has raised this at PM's Questions

Tim Loughton is a weasel

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/10371/tim_loughton/east_worthing_and_shoreham/divisions?policy=6707

 

[SIMMO SAYS]

Agreed but totally understandable given the mentality of the poster who thinks adding an emoji cow is so utterly funny

I know what winds you up BUT you should shut the feck up on this thread

 

[Beach Hut]

I know what winds you up BUT you should shut the feck up on this thread

I will give you one response only, you telling me to shut up when you derail it to talk about something else is emphatically unforgivable beyond belief.

There is a serious side to this thread.

For respect for what the content of this thread is don't respond

 

[SIMMO SAYS]

I will give you one response only, you telling me to shut up when you derail it to talk about something else is emphatically unforgivable beyond belief.

There is a serious side to this thread.

Don't respond

As I said shut the feck up - read the second post on this thread.
You are seriously embarrassed for dissing me on your gas hob thread.
I will continue to post for the rest of my life just to piss you off.
Get over it

 

[The Camel]

What I really do not understand is the need to hold an independent review. The AAIB know what happened and who is to blame for the accident, the whys and wherefores about why the plane was allowed to be there should by now be resolved.

The pilot acted alone in attempting his flying routine and he alone caused the accident by his misjudgement. Therefore criminal proceeding should have started on him. Further procedural issues as to why and if (at all) he has allowed to do his routine in the area over the A27 should result in further proceedings. If indeed he was given such permission it still doesn't exonerate any of the blame from him for endangering lives.

When aviation laws were originally passed they were solely to protect those on the ground and not those in flying machines. That premise exists still.

As an ex-licensed aircraft engineer I know if I f@@ked up I would soon have found myself being prosecuted it appears to be different for others.

Out of interest what do you think the point of a prosecution in this case is?

AFAIK there are three reasons for prosecuting someone.

1. Punishment. I would have thought being responsible for all those deaths on the pilot's conscience is punishment enough, 5 years in prison isn't going to make any difference.

2. Protecting the public from the defendent re offending. The pilot will never be allowed to fly again, so does not apply here.

3. Deterrent. I severely doubt any pilot will try to pull the same stunt ever again at an air show having seen what might happen.

So it feels like a criminal trial is pointless.

 

[Tooting Gull]

Tim Loughton is a weasel

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/10371/tim_loughton/east_worthing_and_shoreham/divisions?policy=6707

Very fair point. I think we probably all expect total hypocrisy from politicians these days, and he's not my political cup of tea.

But that said,surely our main priority is the families of the victims and overcoming the inertia that has set in, not to mention the unfairness of the legal representation situation.

So if he gets to grandstand in the Commons but some good comes out of it and it moves the issue up the agenda, I'll take it.

 

[Buzzer]

Post two

Fair enough. I didn't see that one.

 

[Buzzer]

So if he gets to grandstand in the Commons but some good comes out of it and it moves the issue up the agenda, I'll take it.

I agree. That video of him cheer-leading for Andrea Leadsom should be enough proof for anyone to see what sort of bloke he is but to be fair to him he deserves credit for the work he's done re. the Shoreham disaster.

 

[Beach Hut]

I agree. That video of him cheer-leading for Andrea Leadsom should be enough proof for anyone to see what sort of bloke he is but to be fair to him he deserves credit for the work he's done re. the Shoreham disaster.

To be fair, I would expect nothing less given he is the elected MP in the area