Highlights up on the BBC site

[Simster]

BBC Sport - Football - Charlton 1-2 Brighton

Some top highlights:
Two top goals, make your mind up over the goal that wasn't given, marvel at Thierry Racon's decision not to put his foot through the ball just before we scored, and an excellent example of a GOALDOWN RETRIEVER.

 

[Skaville]

Ref was right to rule out Elphick's goal.

 

[Simster]

I agree. I was texting someone at the time so I missed it, but on that evidence, no way should that have stood.

 

[Cadiz Seagull]

8 minutes highlights up on Seagull Player as well.

 

[Mendoza]

Charlton had more chances on goal than I remember on the night, I like the one with the missed over head kick and spooner wide

 

[Simster]

Charlton had more chances on goal than I remember on the night, I like the one with the missed over head kick and spooner wide

That's what I felt. I think the truth is that we had a lot of possession without creating as many goal scoring chances as a team so in control of the game might expect.

 

[Monsieur Le Plonk]

Ref was right to rule out Elphick's goal.

Completely disagree. He threw it into Elphick's lap. Elphick made no attempt to nick the ball out of his hands. I really think it should have been a goal.

 

[Simster]

Completely disagree. He threw it into Elphick's lap. Elphick made no attempt to nick the ball out of his hands. I really think it should have been a goal.

But Elphick interfered with the goalkeeper while he had possession of the ball (the keeper is deemed to have possession even when the ball is in the air between his hands and kicking it). And Elphick ran right across him when he could have run straight back.

 

[Monsieur Le Plonk]

But Elphick interfered with the goalkeeper while he had possession of the ball (the keeper is deemed to have possession even when the ball is in the air between his hands and kicking it). And Elphick ran right across him when he could have run straight back.

Oh I dont know. I dont see it as Elphick running across him at all and I'm not sure that the keeper in this case would be deemed in possession of the ball. It would have taken a srong old ref to have given a goal and they dont exist.

 

[Simster]

Oh I dont know. I dont see it as Elphick running across him at all and I'm not sure that the keeper in this case would be deemed in possession of the ball. It would have taken a srong old ref to have given a goal and they dont exist.

It's easy to have a pop at the ref and there are PLENTY of strong refs about, but as far as I can see the keeper is blatently impeded in this instance. i.e. he is physically prevented from kicking the ball up the field.

If Elphick had made that run, and the keeper had managed to complete his kick, hoofing it at Elphick's back from point blank range allowing Elphick to score, then I agree the goal should then have stood.

 

[Eddie Bee]

I am not up on the law with goalies kicking these days...howevever I don't think Elphick actually touched the keeper.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

I am not up on the law with goalies kicking these days...howevever I don't think Elphick actually touched the keeper.

Thats the point - he doesn't need to touch him, for it to be considered an infringement.

 

[Everest]

Having seen it now, the ref was right. Even though it was accidental it was still a free kick.

 

[Acker79]

Oh I dont know. I dont see it as Elphick running across him at all and I'm not sure that the keeper in this case would be deemed in possession of the ball. It would have taken a srong old ref to have given a goal and they dont exist.

I am not up on the law with goalies kicking these days...howevever I don't think Elphick actually touched the keeper.

I posted this yesterday
Goal Keeper Possession/Elphick's - North Stand Chat

I understand there to be some debate about Elphick's disallowed goal. I wasn't there, nor was I able to listen to the game due to previous commitments, so am not totally sure this is relevant, but this is what the laws of the game have to say:

A goalkeeper is not permitted to keep control of the ball in his hands for more than six seconds. A goalkeeper is considered to be in control of the ball:

• while the ball is between his hands or between his hand and any surface
(e.g. ground, own body)
• while holding the ball in his outstretched open hand
• while in the act of bouncing it on the ground or tossing it into the air

When a goalkeeper has gained possession of the ball with his hands, he cannot be challenged by an opponent.

Page 112 (114 of the pdf file):
Laws of the Game

 

[sten_super]

From the highlights the ref definitely got the decision right. As others have said, while the keeper is throwing the ball up to kick it it's still in his possession; thus Elphick getting in the way (deliberately or not) is a foul.

 

[Gully]

...cracking finish for our second goal!

 

[JBizzleBeard]

Bennett's goal (1.30) is an absolute screamer!

 

[NS Herald]

I think the truth is that we had a lot of possession without creating as many goal scoring chances as a team so in control of the game might expect.

That's my slight concern about a 4-5-1 formation - the lack of chances created - so far.

You really need your central midfield to support the lone striker and whilst away from home it gives us more midfield solidity, at home I would be inclined to go 4-4-2 - particulalry as it's Exeter who have 1 away point from 21.

They will probably defend deep and we really need to have numbers going forwards.

 

[Simster]

That's my slight concern about a 4-5-1 formation - the lack of chances created - so far.

You really need your central midfield to support the lone striker and whilst away from home it gives us more midfield solidity, at home I would be inclined to go 4-4-2 - particulalry as it's Exeter who have 1 away point from 21.

They will probably defend deep and we really need to have numbers going forwards.

I raised this very point yesterday on that 4-5-1 thread.

 

[Oscar]

But then also playing with that much width is going to help with a packed defence. I would keep the 4-5-1 but it has to be more of a 4-3-3 in the way we play.

As for the highlights, great goal by Bennet and a great ...ahem..finish by Calderon too. That's the bit of luck we've all been moaning the lack of recently.