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Official Old Man

Uckfield Seagull
Aug 27, 2011
8,647
Brighton
Great news.

Always good to hear of something that works for this awful pain.

The turmeric/piperine thingies I take for my fecked joints elsewhere seem to help me.

About 15 years back I went to my doctor and demanded a resolution to my pain. She sent me to an expert who, after two appointments in a year, declared I had gout. Thanks.
I have had all the usual stuff but am allergic to them. They make my top lip swell up really large as predicted in the warnings.
 




Grizz

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
1,257
Did anyone else get an attack when they caught Covid? I caught the delta variant back in November 2021 and after about 7 days I was starting to feel OK and then bam, I could feel the tingling in my left big toe. My gout is hereditary based, triggered by certain foods, but with the covid i actually ate very little of anything. I've not had an attack for 6 years or so, but this one was full on and lasted a couple of weeks.
 


Recidivist

Active member
Apr 28, 2019
287
Worthing
Did anyone else get an attack when they caught Covid? I caught the delta variant back in November 2021 and after about 7 days I was starting to feel OK and then bam, I could feel the tingling in my left big toe. My gout is hereditary based, triggered by certain foods, but with the covid i actually ate very little of anything. I've not had an attack for 6 years or so, but this one was full on and lasted a couple of weeks.

Yep, got covid about 10 days ago and started getting gout 3 days ago. Probably worst attack I’ve ever had too!

Get gout very rarely and usually triggered by over-indulgence in alcohol. Since I’ve drunk very little since I got covid it can’t be that either.

Very frustrating coming on top of a psoriasis flare caused, I believe, by covid vaccinations (per my dermatologist).


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Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
31,948
Brighton
What a fun thread to bounce.

Well into week 2 of a pretty rubbish bout of this right now. Followed about a week after a bad acid reflux episode.

Doctor has now prescribed Allopurinol (along with blood tests to keep a track of uric acid levels), I was just a little cautious about;

A> Once you're on it, they basically said you really should stay on it for life - is there any side effects?

and

B> They also confirmed that once you go on Allopurinol it can trigger a quite bad gout attack - anyone had any experience of this? Or just saw it as worth it to get the problem dealt with? As sole breadwinner I can't really afford time off work atm...

The Doc did make the point that if I keep getting gout attacks it can cause permanent damage to the joints, so obviously at 37 years of age with 2 young children I want to avoid that as much as humanly possible.
 
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Tom Hark Preston Park

Will Post For Cash
Jul 6, 2003
70,622
Gout is EVIL. Tho, taking the positives, it won't last more than about 12 days. Tho it sometimes takes the piss and then transfers to the opposite limb. Naproxen is your prescripion (or euro-over-counter) friend here. Else 500mg Ibuprofen
 




Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
31,948
Brighton
Did anyone else get an attack when they caught Covid? I caught the delta variant back in November 2021 and after about 7 days I was starting to feel OK and then bam, I could feel the tingling in my left big toe. My gout is hereditary based, triggered by certain foods, but with the covid i actually ate very little of anything. I've not had an attack for 6 years or so, but this one was full on and lasted a couple of weeks.
Yes - this happened to me, Gout seems to hit when my immune system is low/struggling with something else (previously Gastritis, kidney stones, all great fun).
 


Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
31,948
Brighton
Gout is EVIL. Tho, taking the positives, it won't last more than about 12 days. Tho it sometimes takes the piss and then transfers to the opposite limb. Naproxen is your prescripion (or euro-over-counter) friend here. Else 500mg Ibuprofen
I'm on day 16. :thumbsup:

Less severe than it was, but taking an age to go away. All my previous attacks were gone within 7-9 days.
 


banjo

GOSBTS
Oct 25, 2011
13,270
Deep south
Looking back on this thread, the last time I had it was 2018. Spookily enough. I’m a week in on another attack. Had a virus and high temperature last week and was really dehydrated. Missed the tingling in my toe and BANG!!! Didn’t catch it in time. Took colchicine for the permitted 3 days. I’m on 200mg Allopurinol. Didn’t think there were side effects taking it. Oh, and told to keep taking it even through an attack.
 




Tom Hark Preston Park

Will Post For Cash
Jul 6, 2003
70,622
I'm on day 16. :thumbsup:

Less severe than it was, but taking an age to go away. All my previous attacks were gone within 7-9 days.
I spent just about all of Albion 2021/22 season with that bitch of a pain. Made it torture every time I went to football. Wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. Been free of that shit for a year now hurrah. Would heartily recommend concentrated sour cherry juice. Mix it into your morning yogurt. Worst case scenario: you'll have a damn tasty yogurt :thumbsup:
 
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Mellotron

I've asked for soup
Jul 2, 2008
31,948
Brighton
Looking back on this thread, the last time I had it was 2018. Spookily enough. I’m a week in on another attack. Had a virus and high temperature last week and was really dehydrated. Missed the tingling in my toe and BANG!!! Didn’t catch it in time. Took colchicine for the permitted 3 days. I’m on 200mg Allopurinol. Didn’t think there were side effects taking it. Oh, and told to keep taking it even through an attack.
Dehydration definitely seems a big factor/problem for me.
 


Arthur

Well-known member
Jul 8, 2003
8,614
Buxted Harbour
What a fun thread to bounce.

Well into week 2 of a pretty rubbish bout of this right now. Followed about a week after a bad acid reflux episode.
Doesn't sound fun at all. Hope it clears up soon.

Doctor has now prescribed Allopurinol (along with blood tests to keep a track of uric acid levels), I was just a little cautious about;

A> Once you're on it, they basically said you really should stay on it for life - is there any side effects?
Well I'm going to say cobblers to that.

Was told the same but I stopped taking it about 4 years ago on the advice of a pal because I had mild attack last for several months. A fellow sufferer said have you tried knocking the allopurinol on the head. I did and low and behold 3 days later it cleared up. I gave it a couple of weeks and kicked off with the tablets again and sure enough within a couple of days I was back to square one and in pain. I was on a reasonably high dosage (300mg) which didn't help. In the end I knocked them on the head completely and you can count on one hand the number of attacks I've had over the last couple of years. I do get the odd tingle from time to time and I think here we go but touch wood most of them pass without a full on attack.

As for side affects. None for me but obviously everyone is different.

and

B> They also confirmed that once you go on Allopurinol it can trigger a quite bad gout attack - anyone had any experience of this? Or just saw it as worth it to get the problem dealt with?
Yes it can do and I don't know is the short answer. No gout attack is worth it IMO. When it's bad I've not known pain like it. I was quite fortunate though. My bad attacks came and went in a couple of days so if you are similar and the allopurinol works for you then possibly. As I said above everyone is different.


The Doc did make the point that if I keep getting gout attacks it can cause permanent damage to the joints, so obviously at 37 years of age with 2 young children I want to avoid that as much as humanly possible.
It can. My pals fingers look like giant twiglets now.

My advice is try and find out what your triggers are and avoid. Mine is red meat, mainly beef, which is a bugger as I love a steak and a roast but it simply not worth it.
 






Alonso Moseley

Active member
Jun 16, 2008
520
Had my first and hopefully only ‘episode’ earlier this year in March, thought my foot was going to explode (it was three in the morning).
I’ve been taking 1500 mg Montmorency cherry tablets every day and drink a lot more water now, especially if I drink any booze.
 


Official Old Man

Uckfield Seagull
Aug 27, 2011
8,647
Brighton
Doctor has now prescribed Allopurinol (along with blood tests to keep a track of uric acid levels), I was just a little cautious about;
I was put on Allopurinol. Side effect is my lips swelled up like I'd had a dozen botox injections. Had to stop taking it.
Now I just have Indometacin to take down the swelling. Luckily I've not had a bad attack for some time, but off on holiday Monday at all inclusive so bound to overdo the bad stuff.
 




Silverhatch

Well-known member
Feb 23, 2009
4,408
Preston Park
What a fun thread to bounce.

Well into week 2 of a pretty rubbish bout of this right now. Followed about a week after a bad acid reflux episode.

Doctor has now prescribed Allopurinol (along with blood tests to keep a track of uric acid levels), I was just a little cautious about;

A> Once you're on it, they basically said you really should stay on it for life - is there any side effects?

and

B> They also confirmed that once you go on Allopurinol it can trigger a quite bad gout attack - anyone had any experience of this? Or just saw it as worth it to get the problem dealt with? As sole breadwinner I can't really afford time off work atm...

The Doc did make the point that if I keep getting gout attacks it can cause permanent damage to the joints, so obviously at 37 years of age with 2 young children I want to avoid that as much as humanly possible.
Had very hard to identify mid-foot gout for years that got worse & more frequent. Had a consult with Kelsey Jordan at the Montifiore (she is a world-leading gout specialist). Proved I had gout with a special scan she developed. Stuck me on Allopurinol and I haven’t had an attack for three years. You might get an attack at first but load up with colchicine and Naproxen. In my experience definitely take the medication👍
 


dstanman

Well-known member
Jul 1, 2011
1,329
Dad had gout, brother suffers from it, and yep now passed to me. Not had an attack yet but blood test confirmed Uric levels out of range, so Doc has put me on 100mg of Allopurinol
 


Silverhatch

Well-known member
Feb 23, 2009
4,408
Preston Park
Allopurinol (and the other variants) helps your system metabolise Uric acid level below 0.42. Below that level your body will, as long as you’re hydrated, flush uric acid out naturally. Anything over the 0.42 range will mean you’re crystal forming and prone to attacks. Purine rich foods will promote Uric Acid. If you are one of the unlucky people who have an issue with serum uric retention then it’ll be almost impossible to naturally stop the build up. I took some convincing to take the drugs (probably for life) given a good diet, normal weight and non-sedentary lifestyle.
 


Flagship

Well-known member
Jan 15, 2018
424
Brighton
Allopurinol will cure your gout. When you start taking it, the gout will stick around for a couple of weeks but after that you should be free of it for the rest of your days. After having suffered for many years, taking it really changed my life.
 




Albion in the north

Well-known member
Jul 13, 2012
1,515
Ooop North
What a fun thread to bounce.

Well into week 2 of a pretty rubbish bout of this right now. Followed about a week after a bad acid reflux episode.

Doctor has now prescribed Allopurinol (along with blood tests to keep a track of uric acid levels), I was just a little cautious about;

A> Once you're on it, they basically said you really should stay on it for life - is there any side effects?

and

B> They also confirmed that once you go on Allopurinol it can trigger a quite bad gout attack - anyone had any experience of this? Or just saw it as worth it to get the problem dealt with? As sole breadwinner I can't really afford time off work atm...

The Doc did make the point that if I keep getting gout attacks it can cause permanent damage to the joints, so obviously at 37 years of age with 2 young children I want to avoid that as much as humanly possible.
Allupurinol made me come out in a rash so had to stop after a couple of days. I used Colchicine a few times which stopped the pain.
The thing thats worked for me is primarily sorting out from my diet which are the "trigger" foods. Mainly red meat. Also Guinness.
Everytime I was getting a bout of Gout Id try to think what Id had in the last 24 hours. Got to remember that Gout is a "topping up" process. Not everytime that you eat something that triggers an attack, would you get Gout but it would just add to the amount of Uric Acid in your blood. When that gets to a certain level, the attack will start.
Keeping hydrated is paramount and try to eat as "clean" a diet as possible. I think that processed foods were giving me joint inflammation as well. We cook fresh food everyday in our house. Just need to make time for it. Meal prepping etc.
Ive no idea how long it is since I last had an attack of Gout but probably at least 5 years and I used to get it regularly.
Hope you get over the pain soon and can find a permanent cure.
 


deslynhamsmoustache1

Well-known member
Apr 25, 2010
874
RAF Tangmere
I feel peoples pain, this lasted 7 weeks of July and August after stopping 300mg of Allopurinol some 4 months ago. Yes to 2 ltrs of water plus tea's every day, yes to cherry juice, yes to liquid turmeric. apologies for the manky foot pic - too much time in ill fitting footy boots when I was young. IMG_0799[785].jpg
 


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